https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

Finally finished and polished the tree!

It took me about 9 months (maybe 260 streak days give or take) but I finally got all the way to the end of the Greek tree. I had made it to and almost one hundred day streak last year before going to the village in the summer and having to take a break from learning via internet. It took some time before I made back all the lost gold units.

Thank you very much to all the creators and collaborators who have made this available to learn from. I'm slowly noticing the ability to find words when I am out shopping when I actually need them and understanding better what someone on the bus is asking for. Hopefully I will be able to start completing more and more units with timed testing. For me, that seems to be help my word recall.

I guess the next step will be to do the tree back into English and see if that helps my skill with Greek progress. I've been trying to learn for quite a few years and Duo has shown the best progress overall. I think it is in no small part to the fact that each and every question can easily be asked for help about. For me, reading the replies given to others (or to myself) by native (or near native) speakers really does help to give life to otherwise "flat" learning.

All the best from an Expat in Athens.

February 26, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaye16
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Congrats to you! And many thanks for your kind words. You are more than welcome and just hearing you have finished the course and are satisfied is all the thanks we need.

The next step might be the new Levels format which is coming soon https://www.duolingo.com/comment/25615588/Upcoming-Feature-Skill-Levels

And of course, Tree 2 which will have much richer vocabulary and more advanced sentence structures.

Enjoy your well-earned knowledge. From one Expat to another.

February 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

Thank you very much! The Levels does sound like something that could be very helpful in my learning. I will keep my eye out for that to be released. I was hoping to finish this Tree before the new one was released. It is nice to have all my Tree one vocabulary in hand to study from. For now though, I'll try and increase my recall with the timed testing.

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YPSILONZ

Συγχαρητήρια Μαρκ!!!
Σε ζηλεύω... Προσπαθώ εδώ κι έναν χρόνο να τελειώσω το ρώσικο δέντρο... Ελπίζω κάποια στιγμή να τα καταφέρω κι εγώ... κοντά είμαι... Για να φτάσω στο λέβελ 22 που είσαι εσύ πάντως, έχω πολύ δρόμο μπροστά μου! Αφού μένεις στην Ελλάδα έχεις ήδη τις καλύτερες προϋποθέσεις για να μάθεις τέλεια τα Ελληνικά! Απλά κάνε πως δε μιλάς Αγγλικά :-D

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spdl79
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Συγχαρητήρια! And, while we're waiting for the new levelling system and the new El from En tree, I'd definitely recommend the reverse tree - it is a bit more complex than this one, I think. The main downside of it is that there are no mods, and quite a few sentences contain errors or ambiguities in either the English or Greek. But it is something of a natural progression from this one.

I know you're in Athens, but I'd say that apart from Duo, one of the best ways to polish your Greek would be to move to a village where hardly anybody speaks English ;-)

February 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

Ha! Sage advice Southerner. You are right though, Athens can be a crutch when it comes to walking off the chickens and just diving into speaking with locals. All our local shops know I am trying to learn so they refuse to speak English to me now unless I make a good go at the Greek. If my son is with me they both mock playfully until I get it right. :P

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YPSILONZ

LOL about moving to a village! He can just pretend he's Hungarian or something and doesn't speak English... :-P P.S.: What will the new levelling system be?

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spdl79
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Heh, it's working for us! Discounting the under-25s, who mostly have a great command of English, there are only about 10 fluent English speakers in our whole κωμόπολη, and they know we're trying to learn, so they usually talk to us in Greek anyway. It actually helps a lot. Although the disadvantage of being in a village is that you can only have the same conversation with the same people a certain number of times, and there isn't so much signage or advertising to look at when you're moving around - cities definitely have the advantage there. But overall I find that people in the villages here (not just my own) are generally more patient and helpful when I'm trying to speak Greek than in the cities or the more touristed areas on the coast.

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaye16
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The link is posted in my comment above. I'm doing it in French and the multiple repetitions have helped me learn with having to think each time about declensions, conjugations etc. In other words I feel I really know what I'm reading, writing etc.

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YPSILONZ

Thanks! I hadn't noticed the link. Sounds awesome! I need harder practice...

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ruthie-K

Congrats to you! Keep up the good work.

February 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ElizabethS746001

Yeah!!! Congratulations!

February 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexm647633

Congratulations! :)

February 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kazmax1

Congratulations! You must be thrilled! Have a Lingot. I know how easy it is to lose a language. I lived in Greece for about 10 years and could "get by" pretty well but, now (many, many years later) I can scarcely remember a word of it. I really want to take it up again but, now, I have a Spanish keyboard (living in Mexico) and if I convert my keyboard to Greek / English, I'll lose the Spanish. Hey ho!

March 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

:facepalm: I'm typing on an English keyboard. I didn't realize that is why I can't remember my Greek. :P

March 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/D_..
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    (I have posted the following as a reply to a similar comment of yours, but I'll add it here as well for anyone looking into starting Greek and thinking keyboards are a pain: )

    There is no need to lose the Spanish keyboard. You can add a third keyboard or, even better, don't add a third keyboard, just use an English International one that allows you to type accents (therefore can type Spanish and French with it too) alongside the Greek monotonic one. :)

    Having more than two keyboards is a pain; don't do it unless absolutely necessary for the languages you're learning. Try to use one keyboard for as many languages as possible.

    I am using the US International keyboard, I'm not sure if other 'International' versions are available.

    March 5, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchCamille

    Congratulations!

    February 26, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stergi3

    It seems that the Greek tree can be finished by a non native speaker in leverl 22 and a real commitement to learn the language. I did it in a more easier language as it is Spanish. I was really happy because of it. It is the same joy I guess finishing the Greek tree.

    I think learning Greek or other language is a non-stop procedure. I wish Duolingo should have more motivational tools to keep people on stake, so as finishing a tree make them go inside the language, dipping in the real soul of it, that is literary texts, everyday speech, and more.

    Anyway, Greek tree is a difficult one. So you should be proud! Even more difficult than the German (I didn't finished yet :) ) and Russian. I don't dare to try Chinese and Japanese ones. It seems to me quite difficult :)

    Congratulations! :) Take some lingots from me!

    March 3, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

    There was indeed a sense of pride when I finally was able to turn the tree all gold. I don't have a knack for languages but the desire to understand more of the people in my neighborhood with their native language keeps me practicing. Each week I notice that I understand just a little bit more. I just need to memorize more words so I can recall them when I need them, not a half hour later. :)

    DuoLingo might not be perfect but it has been the most helpful so far. I wish it wasn't so hard to pull out my vocabulary to study from but since it isn't impossible, I'll take what is given (freely) and appreciate it. I'm not sure how many vocabulary words makes up the Greek Tree but it seems to be a fairly good base. My unique word file from my vocabulary page says 2588 items but that includes different forms of adjectives and a lot of phrases. I'd guess in the range of 1800 perhaps. A good start if I could convince my lazy brain to remember a few of them. ;)

    Thank you for the kind words. It is this side of the site, the community (neighborhood), that keeps me practicing day after day. I must confess though, I look forward to the village this year to let the streak die off for the summer…

    March 4, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kazmax1

    Just think what it will take to get back all those gold tabs and at least keep them up-to-date while you're away.

    March 4, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

    No internet is no internet. It is, quite simply, cathartic… The tabs will come back. The summer, not so much.

    March 5, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/konosp

    In which area is this wonderful village, if I may ask?

    March 7, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

    Laconia. Very nice in the summer and the area is recovering well after the horrible fires a few years ago. :)

    March 7, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/konosp

    Sounds nice :)

    March 7, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kazmax1

    If only the Duolingo course had been available when I lived in Greece! It would have been a massive help as, back then, there were few books available for learning Greek and none of them was great. To improve your spoken Greek (or any other language) it helps a lot if you practice by having imaginary conversations in your head, and when you come to a stumbling block, make a note of it and look it up, later.

    March 4, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark.Roth

    Conversations (imaginary or otherwise) are good advice. I find myself using the same tired ask/answer combinations over and over. I'm sure the guy at our local kiosk thinks I was dropped on my head as a child… :P

    March 4, 2018
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