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"Je crois en l'amitié."

Translation:I believe in friendship.

March 20, 2013



crois sounded to me as quoi lol. need to fine tune my listening


You should use this site:


It helps so much with speed and really really listening. Also it helps your vocabulary a lot with all the songs :) It's a very easy site also and you don't need to log in.


Had a look. It didn't work for me at all.

Actually, a song is about the last place I would expect to hear words evenly and clearly spoken.

There is no explanation on the on the site about how it works but it is pretty basic.

They offer videos of music from a genre that you select in a language that you select. They play a couple of lines from the song with subtitles. In the subtitle a gap appears for you fill in the word that is missing. The video stops at the end of the line so you can type in the missing word. It is self correcting so if you type in an incorrect letter, the program won't register it. When you are finished entering as much as you can in the space provided, you resume play and after a couple more lines another space appears with a missing word for you to fill in. This is repeated until the end of the song. You can choose the level of difficulty.

It is supposed to be a game so I guess your skill is measured and rewarded in some way. I was unable to successfully fill in even one word so I don't know what happens when you have some degree of success. I have no doubt that with a lot of practice I could get a little bit better. But, for me, it would take a great deal of practice time for little result, while ignoring other more programs that deliver a better outcome. However, if you like spendng time watching music videos and have at least a little ear for French (unlike me) then this is a good site.

Their business model is that the videos they offer are all available for sale. In the little time I spent there before giving up, I saw no pressure or in your face effort to promote the music. Just a sentence or two to let you know if you want the music, they can deliver it.


It's really a shame it didn't work for you at all. For me it worked a little, but my best friend very much benefits from it! When we both did one song once, she said 'Do you also have that? I know every single word of the song already!' and I was pretty much baffled.

I suppose it's very personal indeed and I agree on the fact that they should at least explain how the program works somewhere. Maybe you should watch french television with french subtitles :)


Actually, I went back and tried it again after my post. This time I chose German at which I am just beginning. However, I actually did better. There the problem was I that I was just unfamiliar with a lot of the words but I was still able to get a fair number of them. Even some words I didn't know but completely guessed at.

One thing I noticed is that, as mentioned, if you let it hit the end of the line before filling in the blank word. It stops, waits while you complete what you can and then resumes when you hit play. The resume point is at the beginning of the line just completed. But if you fill in the missing word in as it is playing and you are correct, it keeps on playing. This puts a lot of pressure on. It was much more productive for me to do the starting and stopping rather than try to slide it in on the fly. Most times it ended up stopping anyway.

Get the word, type it in correctly and keep up with the music. ...Phwew....Too much performance stress is counterproductive.

As for watching French t.v. forget it. Even the slow, measured Duo French speech on repeat many times is difficult for me to comprehend. But not the German or Esperanto. Hardly ever have to repeat on Duo.


The nice thing about German is that the spelling is so consistent that you can write down words you hear correctly without being able to understand them. That doesn't work in French or English.


I believe in the friendzone


Why is "Je crois en amitié" not acceptable here?


no, it is not, you need an article


I know it doesn't physically mean "in", but can 'dans' replace en? What are the rules here?


the correct form is "croire en" or "croire à" depending on context, but not "croire dans", even if you can hear here and there in France.


I believe in amity should be correct. ….amity is an english word


amity carries with it the notion of harmony and peaceful relations.

Two martial art fighters could be cementing their friendship when fighting each other in a competition but you wouldn't use amity to describe their interactions regardless of how much they avoided seriously hurting each other and just tried to score points.


And one of the dictionary definitions of amité is "kindness." But DL doesn't accept that.


Kindness = la gentillesse


With respect, I find fault with your example. Why wouldn't the relationship between two budoka be that of harmony or amity, even when they are sparring or competing against each other! That concept is a pillar of the "tao" of martial arts, after all. "Amity" was brought to English by the Norman French as amitié, derived in term from Latin "amicus," meaning--guess what--"friend." So Duolingo's refusing to accept that "amity" = "amitié" makes no sense at all.


'I have faith in' is not as good as 'I believe in'?


They are similar, except if you want to avoid the religious connotation in "faith"


Perhaps French is slightly different, or perhaps Australia is just more relaxed about it, but in the English I am familiar with the word faith does not carry any real religious connotations and having faith is perfectly synonymous with believing in unless you were talking to someone who was very religious.

I believe it should be an acceptable translation.

As an aside, that is not to say that people do not understand the origins of the word but simply that its meaning is no longer automatically connected to religion.


Today's France has a long catholic history and indeed a number of words and expressions are derived from this history.

However, we do not say "Oh mon Dieu !" (OMG) as often as Americans do... ;-)

"Avoir foi en quelqu'un" or "avoir foi en l'avenir" is very 'republican' and no further linked to any religious context.

"Avoir la foi" still means being a believer in God (basically belonging to one or the 3 monotheist religions).


Yes, keen student of history that I am, I'm familiar with the Catholic church in France; a lot of very interesting reading there to be sure.

Thank you for your prompt and fascinating response. I believe that "avoir la foi" means much the same as it does in English where if you broadly said of a person "he has faith" it would mean religiously. Also the Jehovah's Witness' have taken enthusiastically to asking "do you have faith?" as a form of introduction when they door-knock.


Is the most common answer also this one where you live: "leave me alone" (laissez-moi tranquille) ?


People here want to learn new languages to communicate...but sometimes, the best communication is to be silent...just don't answer the door...well, at least it's far better than saying something unkind or using bad language. Also, a smile is the nicest "word" you can say in ANY language.



Faith and belief are not 'perfectly synonymous' and it is not just a matter of degree.

I agree that faith is not just about religion but let me take a religious example anyway to demonstrate the difference.

A religious person (monotheist) might say "I believe in God" she might also say "I have faith in God". At first sight these two statements may appear to mean the same thing - but they don't.

To illustrate let's continue the example. The same religious person then goes on to say "I believe in the Devil" but of course she will not say "I have faith in the Devil".

This makes sense because faith is about trust not about belief. So although faith and belief can overlap in certain circumstances they do not mean the same thing.


In most of the Western world faith is not automatically connected to organized religion but it is connected to deep seated belief that forms part of a world view. Faith in something is sometimes used to convey confidence in an outcome to the point that you would be shattered if it didn't happen even if listeners understand the phrase is being used to express your confidence not your belief system.

What I am saying is that when someone says they have faith in something as an expression of confidence (say in the performance of a sports team) no one believes that the speaker will have a crisis of conviction in reality if the team loses. Everybody understands that they are using hyperbole to express their enthusiasm. That's why they use faith, to indicate the depth of their belief. It means more than just believe.


Perfectly true, but slight differences in depth of meaning should not cause people to lose marks if the expressions can be used to mean the same thing, which in this case they can.

I would not define faith to the extent that you have, however. I think it depends more on your subject. If I had faith in God then found out that God was not real I would be shattered but if I had faith that someone would help me if I asked and they did not help then I would be surprised and no doubt quite disappointed but shattered would be far too strong a word.


"I believe in friendship"= I agree with/understand/prefer friendship.... "I have faith in friendship"= I feel certain of the beneficial outcome of friendship..


Why is it "en l'amitie"? En goes in front of verbs which don't need le or la, right?


No, this is another "en", not the pronoun but the preposition: croire en = believe in


Is there some rule to know when an article is needed with en when it acts as a preposition ? There are many instances when articles are omitted after the preposition en


elle croit en Dieu - she believes in God

Tu aurais été en danger. - You would have been in danger.

Ce secteur est en croissance. - This sector is growing.

Février est en hiver. - February is in winter.

Vous allez en prison ! - You're going to prison!

Il est en classe.- He's in school.

And how would you say 'I believe in growth'

is it

je crois en croissance or je crois en la croissance


Maybe try to remember that "en" often means "dans le/la". This should help you to remember that with notions of time, places, vehicles, materials..., the noun will be bare.

  • en avril, en été, en 2016, en Italie, en voiture, en coton...


"croire en" and "avoir confiance/foi en" are naturally constructed with "en" and you will need an article (definite or indefinite) when it is followed by a noun:

  • je crois/j'ai confiance/foi en l'amour, en l'amitié, en la philosophie, en l'homme, en l'humanité, en l'avenir, en l'équipe, en le futur, en les résultats...

Besides, there are as usual a number of fixed phrases and expressions that have kept the article, when the next word starts with a vowel sound:

  • en l'honneur de nos amis (in honor of)
  • en l'occurrence (in this case)
  • en l'air (aloft/in the air)
  • en l'état (as it is)
  • en l'absence de (in the absence of)


thank you for the detailed explanation and examples


i wrote "i believe in amity" and was marked wrong. Amity means friendship


Etymologically, "amity" comes from French or more exactly from Latin: "amare".

Hence: aimer, ami(e)(s), amical(e/s)/amicaux, amicalement, amitié, amour, amant(e)(s)...

But "amity" is literary and formal, not the word most people use to mean "friendship/amitié".


thank you for your timely response. It might not be the most common response but it should marked correct as an alternative. Non?


Frankly, I believe it is a stretch. Please also consider that "amitié" is not formal but standard and common language, so "amity" would not match it in terms of register of speech.


great answer, makes perfect sense, thanks


Why the -s in "crois" isn't pronounced?


The rule is that ending consonants are not pronounced. But there are exceptions: plus (pluss) = more; tous (touss) =all of them


of course, but I thought that you pronounce the -s when next word begins with a vowel. (and same for -x and other....)


Sorry, I had not got it the first time. That liaison is optional, but I believe it is much better to mark it.


So in English there is quite a large distinction between "I believe in the friendship" and "I believe in friendship". One is specific to a friendship you have, the other is just an acceptance that you can have friendship and a belief in the power of having a friendship (or something like that).

Can anyone explain this to me please? Does it mean both, if this is the case I'm guessing the only way to know would be based on context, if you're having a discussion about a friend you have then it would be "the friendship", and without discussing a specific friend then just "I believe in friendship"?



You are correct. L'amité can be the particular friendship that you know about in some way. Or it could mean all friendship, the idea of friendship.

Similarly, in English...I believe in friendship could mean all friendship, the idea of friendship. Or it could mean some friendship, excluding obvious categories such as friendship with mass murderers, serial rapists because that is understood as something you would not do.

In both languages only context tells you which is the case. If it is important to know which, then you have to ask but usually people just assume they know which you mean.

In a language course every body examines every word for possible meanings but in ordinary conversation the distinction is usually obvious or not important.


How is "I can trust in frienship" different? Or is it nonsence? Thank you :-)


"trust in" is a possible construction for the noun trust, not for the verb "to trust":

  • I trust friendship (verb)
  • I have trust in friendship (noun)


Thanks a lot, I haven´t known about that :-)


Je crois aux rêves. - à = to believe in something Je crois en Paul. - en = to believe in somebody Is this correct?


So... should the sentence translate to "I believe in her/his friendship", rather than the stated "I believe in friendship", (in general)?


"Je crois en l'amitié" (I believe in friendship) expresses my belief in a human value.

"Je crois en son amitié" (I believe in her/his friendship) expresses my conviction that her feelings for me are sincere and/or my trust that her feelings for me are strong enough to last/resist adverse events...

What do you think?


Isn't a belief in human value a belief in "something" therefore requiring "a" as opposed to "somebody" requiring "en"? Je crois à l'amitié = I believe in friendship (i.e. the value of something) Je crois en son amitié = I believe in his/her friendship (belief in someone, believe they are my friend) I imagine I am not understanding something here :)


Actually, we tend to use "en" and "à" with immaterial things somewhat interchangeably because the nuance is subtle.

"Je crois à l'amitié" is the "something" version

"Je crois en l'amitié" is the "effect" version.

Also sometimes the sound of "en" before a definite article is ugly and then we move to "à": "je crois en les choses" -- "je crois aux choses".


"I believe in comradeship." is not accepted.


why "amitié" need (l') before it ?


L'amitié, l'amour, l'affection, la tendresse and also la guerre, la paix, la haine, l'histoire, l'art... all conceptual nouns need the definite article as part of their "general" meaning.


I have no words to express my gratitude, Merci beaucoup.

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