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上班 vs. 去工作

  1. What is the difference between:
  2. 上班 and 去工作?
  3. 勺子 and 匙子?

  4. Why is the adverb of place in 你要在前面下车 placed after the verb not before it?

Thanks

March 9, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/Mr.rM
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I'd like to provide my native views about (2) and (3), because I find others' not perfect enough. ;-)

(2): We can also say 去上班. “去” is optional and not very important here. 工作 (“to work”) is more general. It can be related to any kind of work. 上班 indicates that people need to work regularly and meet required hours, may also need to work in an office. It is not quite suitable for part-time jobs (兼职, “to work part-time”).

(3): 匙子 mostly refers to small spoons like teaspoons and small soup spoons (not the serving spoons, unless it is 汤匙). 勺子 is a larger category than 匙子 since they have basically the same shape and function, and 勺子 can also refer to the (big) serving spoons (tablespoon) like for rice or soup.

The word 匙羹 (teaspoon) mentioned by @nitedemon, as I know, is mostly used by Cantonese speakers and spoken in Cantonese. In Mandarin there is a similar word, just reversed — 羹匙, but it is “small soup spoon”, not as general as 匙羹.

Edit (something I forgot to note): for Cantonese people, 匙羹 can also be the spoons for eating rice or soup, (normally) not for serving food.

March 12, 2018

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2 上班is more "going to your physical work place to work" while 去工作is merely "going to work". More over, if you are to tell your spouse you are going to work in the morning, you would most probably use "我去上班啦“

3 This one I am not sure but I highly suspect it is dialectal difference for the same exact thing. Growing up in Guangdong province as a Cantonese speaker, we refer to spoons as 匙羹;then for almost a decade in Beijing I only hear people refer to spoons as 勺子, never have I heard 匙子being used.

4 ”在前面下车“ is the subject of "你要"

March 9, 2018

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勺子 means a spoon in general and it could be big or small. 匙子 mainly means a teaspoon or a maller spoon. 匙羹 mainly means a spoon for soup. Since Chinese does not have verb related conjugation, tenses and plural/single, adverbs or adverbial(phrases) has to be put at the beginning of the sentence or right after the subject to indicate time and so on. If you want to say "I am going to work tomorrow." You must say it "我明天要去上班。" or "明天我要去上班。". When an adverb or adverbial is put at the beginning of a sentence, the speaker is emphasizing 明天, and so on. If it is put after the subject, the speaker is emphasizing the subject 我. You'd better not say "我要去上班明天。" People can understand what you are saying but it is not right way to say so. I am a Chinese native speaker.

March 10, 2018

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下车is the verb

March 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor

去工作 is the actual act of physically going to go to wherever you work, whereas 上班 is more what time you're actually on duty. So I might 去工作 at 7:30 in the morning, but not get to the office and 上班 until 8:00. So they're very similar with just a slight connotation difference.

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/OstenCramer

In a repirse of what others have said,

  1. I concur that the difference between 上班 and 去工作 is that 上班 is to "start work" or "go on shift" as in “I start work at 9:00am" = "我早上九点上班” while I might say "I leave for work at 8am" = "我早上八点去工作“

  2. I've mostly heard 勺子 everywhere in China that speaks 普通话。 I learned 匙子 when I was studying Chinese in college, but I've never actually heard of anyone using it. I have seen 匙 used in other compound words, though, such as 茶匙 for "teaspoon." So it is still relevant and useful to know.

  3. I think you were probably thinking "要" was the verb, though quick warning: 要 has far more uses in Chinese than just as a verb. It is often used to mark the futurity of a sentence. If you study the history of the Chinese language you will find that the categories of parts of speech are somewhat fluid. They are western impositions mapped on to the Chinese language, and awkwardly at that. In classical Chinese, the major parts of speech were often "topic" "comment" and "aspect," which establishes the relationship between the topic and the comment. Most words could play multiple roles, depending on where they came in the syntax of the sentence.

Today, Chinese syntax is much looser, and due to the shift to bisyllabic words, the part of speech of the word is often clarified by the word it is partnered with. For example, by itself, 爱 could be the noun love, or the verb to love. But when 爱 is used as a noun, it is normally partnered with 情,which is the more bodily counterpart to 爱, as 爱情。

This is also why "下·” which in English would be thought of as an adjective, is also a verb. Chinese grammar makes much more sense when you realize that a single word can be a noun (下面 the underside) a verb (下车 to get off from a vehicle) an adjective (下个月 next month) or an adverb (走下去 to walk down).

March 12, 2018

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上班 and 去工作, as a verb.the two are almost the same . 我去上班了,我去工作了。but when u ask someone's job .we usually say ,你做什么工作,not 你上什么班(which means u work on different shifts .u just ask the person which shift he is on)

勺子,匙子, 匙子 we don't use it anymore. now we use 勺子 , and in some city (especially in south of china), people also use 调羹。 but 匙子 is from the ancient times.

你要在前面下车, we can say , 你下车,你,subject ,下车 verb, predicate。 在前面 ,adverbial。 we usually put adverbial in front of the verb . 我在公交车上睡着了。 i fell asleep in the van .

March 16, 2018

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