https://www.duolingo.com/Todd50

Pulls Hair Out: Toughest Sentence so far

"After he had eaten, he was no longer hungry."

Seems easy enough, but no! Starting with a subordinate clause in the past perfect really tests your grammar. 1. Subordinate conjunction (nachdem) places main verb at end of clause 2. And that verb is the past perfect (gegessen hatte) 3. And the main clause is now in the second position, so it has to start with the verb. 4. And its a negation. If you think of "hungry" in the main clause as "haben Hunger," then you've got "kein" in the accusative case. 5. UGH! Answer: "Nachdem er gegessen hatte, hatte er keinen Hunger mehr"

Es ist zu früh am Morgen dafür!

March 11, 2018

27 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Stevestewart0001

It's amazing how quickly that word order becomes intuitive. A native German-speaking 5 year-old would manage this with ease, but would have no idea what a subordinate clause or the past perfect is. The human brain is a wonderful thing!

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/EL5tEL

I can't wait until I have the skills of a five year old :)

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jzsuzsi

Once I noticed that I formed an English sentence with German word order.

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Todd50

Once noticed I, that I an english Sentence with german Wordorder formed. ;)

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/slamRN

I have to watch myself to not capitalize non-proper nouns in English.

March 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Stevestewart0001

Lol! Quite so! ☺

March 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/LunaFowler

I have the opposite problem. I never remember to capitalise my nouns anymore.

April 1, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/slamRN

After studying other languages, eh?

April 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/J.Cassar

which was it?

March 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JuleneDS

It's amazing how fast kids pick up grammar rules for their native language !

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/gmbka

I am always delighted, and I have witnessed it a few times, when a toddler forms a sentence in which words like "toothes" occur. She knows grammar! She knows how to form a plural.

April 1, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/gmbka

I was really hurt when I was accused of translating from English into German since I am a native German speaker. But that happens after having lived for 30 years in the US, you cannot speak either language correctly any more.

March 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/slamRN

:-0

April 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/sllewell2

If I come in to German after doing Spanish or Portuguese recently, I get dinged for dropping the pronouns. :)

March 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/gSY55q97

: )

March 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Burkhart02

If only I could get the hang of this german

March 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Stevestewart0001

Deutsche Sprache schwere Sprache! Keep at it though ☺

March 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Ima295463

you're probably doing much better than you think. Every once in awhile go back and redo or strengthen a lesson. It will make you feel much better about what you have retained.

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Warren579807

That one got me pretty good as well!

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/WonkyDonky44

Just reading this highly amusing discussion has given me encouragement. Whilst I am enjoying my daily flirtation with Duo, I'm somewhat ashamed to know that my actual real life knowledge and understanding of this wonderful language bears no resemblance to my reasonable XP count and 595 streak plus the 130 I lost together with many much shorter ones before I realised the value of daily lessons, even whilst on holiday.

Which brings me to the point of my chat. I will soon be going on holiday with my husband and two friends - none of whom have any knowledge of German - and we will be staying in a predominantly German oriented hotel on one of the Greek islands. My question is this: is it better to speak only English with perhaps a bitte, danke and Guten Morgen/Abend here and there, or risk my very dodgy grammar and try to engage a little more with the many German nationals who will no doubt be able to speak English as well as we do?

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Stevestewart0001

No question: try speaking in German at every opportunity. That sort of immersion is the most amazing way to learn fluency. Let's face it, the brain is pretty much hard wired to learn language via immersion with its trial and error. The native German speakers will both love your attempts to speak German to them, and being to correct you! :-)

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/WonkyDonky44

Thanks Steve. Many years ago someone told me that native German speakers were offended by foreigners who didn't use the correct grammar so I shall bear in mind your comment that they will enjoy being able to correct my mistakes and report back on my return mid May.

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Stevestewart0001

I've never met a German offended by my bad (well, awful) German grammar, so perhaps your friend just got unlucky! Have a great time, and I will be interested to hear how you get on :-)

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/LunaFowler

That is a misconception, most of us can speak English better than most foreigners can speak German, so when we notice you have an English accent we usually talk to you in English to make communication easier. If you have that problem just tell them you are trying to learn the language.

April 1, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Ima295463

Yes, definitely speak German when you can. We always feel so embarrassed to mess up, but it's the best practice you can get.

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/WonkyDonky44

Thank you for your support Ima, I will do my best and hope I don't offend if/when I get it wrong.

March 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/slamRN

Sprechen, reden und reden noch mehr.

March 15, 2018
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