Skills equivalency (A1-C2 CEFR)
I am new to Duolingo and wish to start new journey in German language. Anyone has an idea what will be the skill set (i.e from A1-C2 based on CEFR framework) after completing all levels of Duolingo?
I'd say zero in speaking. It's of course different if you define speaking as either pronunciation or conversational skills, but even in the former case, DL's voice recognition is hardly a proper measurement.
I know this sounds harsh, and some people might object that they have become conversational by using DL, but I want to emphasise that DL only gives you the tools to start practising; for some these tools are enough to progress quickly in speaking, for others not so. In any case, if you choose not to practice outside of DL, you do not have any speaking skills as far as I'm concerned.
I'd say zero in speaking.
That depends on your mother tongue.
German is very regular in the pronunciation of the written words. For Dutch people (like me), the German pronunciation is very easy. However I will never learn to speak the right declinations, because I need too much time to think about it.
You always need a lot of practice outside any language course.
- Duolingo's language courses are good for beginners and for people, who are brushing up their school knowledge.
- You will never reach A1 in reading/writing by only using the Duolingo App.
I agree with this and I would add that it also depends on how easy or hard you personally find the language. I was for sure A2 after finishing the tree in German, but I don't feel like even just A1 after finishing the tree in French. It's all because for me French is much harder than German.
B1 vocab sounds a bit high - most courses only have around 2000 words (not lexemes).
The funny thing is that somehow I do know a few words of the B1 vocabulary (not all).
Not sure if that comes from DuoLingo, Memrise PT BR Basic or offical Memrise PT BR 1-7 courses.
I have NOT done yet any specific B1 courses or learned big 2000/3000/5000 vocabulary courses on Memrise or AnkiSRS!
My next plan (for B1-B2) is to use the www.languagecourse.net vocabulary trainer VT superlearning mode (just showing quickly ALL words, no quiz testing) and "testing" me on B1+B2 themes if I remember/recall all/any of them.
You can separately choose A1, A2, B1, B2, C1 + several other specific themes in the VT app (e.g Android).
My experience was that I was half B1 according to this test....or was it half B2? I do not 100% remember anymore correctly....
A retake now shows full A1-B1 + half B2.
"You know approximately: 2900 words
This corresponds with level B1 of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages, CEFR 33 of our Brazilian Portuguese intermediate course."
Of course I am not sure and I do not know if this test is any correct or working ;)