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"Qo'noSDaq vaS'a'Daq HIghom!"

Translation:Meet me in the Great Hall on Kronos!

March 15, 2018



Is 'a' used as the augmentative suffix here? If so, does vaS mean 'hall'?

March 15, 2018


Yes. vaS is a hall and vaS'a' is the Great Hall.

March 15, 2018


Can you have two locatives in the same sentence like this? And how do I express "Meet me on Kronos AND in The Great Hall"?

March 24, 2018


You can indeed have two locatives in one sentence. Consider, for example, the Bird-of-Prey cutaway poster:


English sentence: 1st Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World Klingon sentence: tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq wa'DIch'e' Back-translation to English: The first location for producing a Bird-of-Prey was in the Klingon district on the Klingon homeworld.

There is also the idiomatic expression tIngvo' 'evDaq chanDaq, translated as "from area-southwestward to area-northwestward to area eastward", with the idiomatic meaning of "everywhere" or "all over the place". http://klingonska.org/canon/1999-11-21-news.txt

As for talking about two places: I'd probably split it into two sentences, but we do have at least one canonical instance of two locatives being joined by the use of je, same as any other nouns:

http://klingonska.org/canon/1995-09-holqed-04-3-a.txt English: The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors who test him with painsticks. Klingon: poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu'. chaH jojDaq yItnISlopwI'. [sic] luchovmeH 'oy'naQmey lo'. Back-translated: "While warriors are standing on the left and one the right. The celebrant must walk between them. In order to asses her/him, they use painstiks."


Although paq'batlh is a bit of a questionable source, being a work of poetry, it's worth noting that it also has an example of X-Daq Y-Daq je:

'ej Hoch vengHomDaq Hoch vengDaq je Suchbogh ghaH qeylIS luQoy woQ le'yo' je ‘aghbej ghaH

I don't have the English handy, but back-translated, it becomes something like:

"And in every village and in every city that [Kahless] visited, they heard him. He certainly showed authority and pride."

March 26, 2018


Further to this: Do the two locatives in this sentence modify the verb HIghom independently ("Meet me on Kronos, in the Great Hall!") or does Qo'noSDaq modify vaS'a' to make a noun phrase Qo'noSDaq vaS'a' "the Great Hall on Kronos"? The latter seems like the most natural interpretation of the English translation here, but whether a locative can modify a noun in Klingon seems to be at least controversial.

April 10, 2018
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