https://www.duolingo.com/GrahamWarr

Crowns/Levels v. Strength/Gold

I completed the Italian course 3 weeks ago, and was happily strengthening my weaker skills daily as they faded from gold. I did a couple this morning, but then a refresh of my home page now shows that I have Crown Level 66 (1 for each skill), and 0 completed lessons in each skill. Now that the concept of gold skills seems to have been discontinued, has Duolingo now "forgotten" my strength in each skill? How does the concept of spaced repetition fit into the new Crowns approach? Will skills fade when they haven't been practiced for a while? Is there a suggested way to transition over from the old strength/gold world to the new crowns/levels world? How do I continue to strengthen my skills from where I am at the moment?

March 19, 2018

6 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/HooGivesAHoot

Congratulations on completing the Italian tree!!!

but then a refresh of my home page now shows that I have Crown Level 66 (1 for each skill), and 0 completed lessons in each skill. Now that the concept of gold skills seems to have been discontinued, has Duolingo now "forgotten" my strength in each skill?

No! Duolingo has not "forgotten" your skill. The each skill starts at Level 0 - so having Level 1 everywhere means you went through the entire tree once.

How does the concept of spaced repetition fit into the new Crowns approach?

As you work through the Levels of a skill, content grammar concepts will be repeated. In addition, the challenges you see at higher levels will become increasingly difficult. IMHO, seeing new content/challenges each time you practice a skill is much better than constantly seeing the same questions while regilding skills.

Will skills fade when they haven't been practiced for a while?

Right now, there doesn't seem to be a gilding or 'fading' mechanic.

Is there a suggested way to transition over from the old strength/gold world to the new crowns/levels world?

First I'm working on completing the tree at Level 1. After that, I will probably try to do the same thing at Level 2. But if you would rather dig in more to a single skill, that's cool too!

How do I continue to strengthen my skills from where I am at the moment?

There is still a "global practice" feature on web and the apps!

March 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Mahana21

I just want to second this post, because while the idea of each user going as deep as they want to, thus modifying and personalizing their style of learning, is a good thing and a good idea by Duolingo authors, the fading feature was very important, as you were reminded to go back and practice something you have completed long ago. With the new system, if fading is not introduced in some form, each user will have to manually think about what they think they should repeat and then go back and find the appropriate skill. This was far better when the app guided you to what it believed you needed to repeat.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Dru_Morgan

I am brand new (well, 51 consecutive days) to duolingo and did not see the "old" way, but in reading this thread, i can see the benefit of the "fading" skills, prompting you to keep them "full" if you will.

Well, there is a way to get that same effect - I added the "TinyCards" by duolingo Italian course, and they have a deck for EACH skill (one to one correlation) where you can drill on the vocabulary for each skill as you progress up the tree.

I wake up and get my 50 experience points with duolingo, usually practicing the whole thing - then I go refresh all my faded TinyDecks to the point where I am in duolingo - then finally I go learn a new skill in Duolingo pushing me further up the tree - lather, rinse, repeat :)

May 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

Hi GrahamWarr,

As your discussion is not specific to the course "Italian from English", but could/will interest any learner of all courses, and is about "How things work?", could you relocate this discussion in the “Troubleshooting" forum? Which is the place meant for such discussion ("How Duo works?", "What is/How works this or that feature/thing?", etc.). Thx!

To relocate it (*), edit your original post then select said forum in the drop-down menu on top-left of the edition area (see here for details).

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Now that the concept of gold skills seems to have been discontinued

I'd guess it'll be gold when you complete 5th crown-level.

EDIT (3min later): About "gold" or not, see Lrtward's comment in that discussion. It's not discontinued. It's triggered by having completed the skill which now means "having completed the 5 crown-levels of the skill".

March 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/GrahamWarr

Thx. I hope I've relocated it OK.

March 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

Yes, thank you!

March 21, 2018
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