https://www.duolingo.com/Jason2302

How do you use the crown-system?

  1. Is level 1 the highest level? Does it have something to do with the crowns?

  2. All my progress was reset into 0/7, 0/6, 0/14, etc. What does that mean? Must I redo all the lessons to get to level 1?

  3. Can the levels weaken by itself?

March 21, 2018

25 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/gabriel.laz

I wish they hadn't done this. Now I don't know which ones I need to practice to strengthen words when I feel like taking a break from new stuff!

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/pentaan

Now I don't know which ones I need to practice to strengthen words when I feel like taking a break from new stuff!

Fortunately, you can still see your decayed skills in your unofficial but very useful personal progress page
https://www.duome.eu/gabriel.laz/progress

Note:
You cannot use (yet) the links in this progress page to level up your lesson's counter (lesson x of y) in duolingo.com

April 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Phthalo_

Thank you for this! This really helps. :)

July 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/lynettemcw

I am not positive, but I pretty sure the strengthen function (the barbell icon bottom right on the Android app or the word strengthen top right on the website) will still strengthen the skills you have without upping your crown levels. That directs you to exercises where Duo thinks you need practice, although you won't always know what is being practiced.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/GallifreyanCat

I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works, not sure why you were downvoted.

May 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SquirlRat

Q3. According to the comments I've seen no. Which means you have to grind the skills over and over to get to the higher levels then in the long run you never get reminded when skills need revising, which seems like a huge step back in functionality.

March 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward

From my experience with the crown setup, by the time you have done enough lessons to reach level 5, you're going to know the content well enough that you don't need to go back and revise.

I wouldn't recommend getting to five crowns in a skill before moving to the next one - that's way too much repetition! It would make me cross-eyed and crazy. One option is to do the whole tree to one crown, then go back and take all the skills to the second crown, etc.

What I've been doing, and enjoying, is to do a row of skills to crown 2, then do the next row of skills to crown 1. Then start at the top and take that to crown 3, the second row to crown 2, and start a new row to crown 1. Then start at the top again and and so on, working my way down the tree. That way I always have some new skills at a fairly easy level, and some skills at a difficult level with lots of lessons required to level up, and some in between. It's a good variety and seems to be a good mix of new and review for me.

March 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SquirlRat

" by the time you have done enough lessons to reach level 5" yeah maybe, but how do you know how often to repeat the lessons to optimise your learning? With the old system the skills would ungild at a rate related to how often you made mistakes last time you revised the skill. Now we have no guidance. Also it might be true that reaching level 5 will mean one knows the content well enough initially, but how long does that last for? After you've gone and done another tree and come back a year later without doing any revision is your knowledge still going to warrant a 'level 5'? I doubt it.

The thing is, you always could redo older skills as well as learning new ones just as much as you liked with the old system. I don't see where there is any advantage here.

March 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/rredfearn32

"you're going to know the content well enough that you don't need to go back and revise."

I'm not sure I agree. I find I remember grammar patterns well enough, but vocabulary is a different story. I need to come back and test myself every few weeks to deepen my memory that, and the old spaced-repetition system was perfect for that.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/atavision

As a duolingo student who had reached the highest (?) level attainable, 61% under the old system, this new crowns system seems a bit arbitrary. Even if the percentage was inaccurate, at least it gave me something to work towards. Any chance a fluency percentage will be worked back into the system in the future?

April 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/lynettemcw

I just started on the crown levels, so I can't speak to whether they are better or not. But I do know that the old proficiency percentage was whack to use an eloquent term lol. I do 5 languages consistently on Duo, but the fluency level doesn't reflect any real world assessment of my knowledge or skill. I have reached level 25 in Spanish but had a fluency percent of 65, but had bested that in French before I finished the tree. Now it shows 72% in French, and the only reason I can think that might be true is because I was spending more time on it because I was making so many errors. But the fact that you thought that 61% was perhaps the highest level attainable shows the meaninglessness of the statistic.

April 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3

If you want to target a number, target the crown level total? Unlike the "fluency" percentage, both its level and the changes thereto have some comprehensible meaning, although of course anything gamification has a certain inherent arbitrariness.

In the Crowns FAQ they posted, it looked like Duolingo was pretty straightforwardly acknowledging what a confusing morass the fluency meter had wound up being (the fact you came to believe 61 was the highest possible when people pretty routinely got to 70 and beyond is a kind of example of this). They didn't totally close the door on some sort of return, but I definitely wouldn't hold my breath.

April 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/bradywolff

Ok Duolingo, I've tried your system for a month or so and I hated it, I have not seen any positive posts about it, please change it back.

April 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Isaac_Luna_

Honestly, I wouldn't be complaining if only they kept the old system while adding the new one. But I've noticed myself significantly less motivated to practice old skills in Danish, having tested out of every skill already. The only reason I continue to do so is to maintain my streak, which is set at 1 xp. I always used to love seeing my gained xp being correlated with my strengthening vocabulary; now, however, the xp seems very arbitrary, as there is no distinction being made between practicing words I've had drilled into my head and intuitively know and words that I have actually forgotten about or have never heard before. I honestly don't see how the crown system is supposed to motivate you. Nobody else sees your crown level. Your crown level is unaffected by the difficulty of the lessons you complete, and likewise says nothing about your actual skill level. It seems you really just collect them for the sake of it. Maybe having 1000 would make me special or something? I don't know. All I know is that I much prefer the old system to the new one, and would not mind at all if they got rid of the new one entirely.

May 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ethanloh

There are 5 crown levels. You complete the (For example)6 lessons out of 6 lessons, and you will level up to 2(if you are at 1), all the way up to 5(at level 5 your skill will be golden). The point of the crowns to make you practice more with repetition to make you remember the words in the skill.

June 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/lynettemcw

Yes. It makes some sense. But for the basic exercises when you have to repeat the, I am a woman and you are a man sentences for 40 or 50 times by the time you get to Level 5 get crazy, especially if people complete the tree each level. Basic phrases are basic because the language builds on the simple vocabulary and structure as you go along. No average learner will gain anything by repeating these basic exercises so much. You can't get through the rest of the course without having mastered these basic structures and certainly the vocabulary. Duo promised more "in depth", but it doesn't go more on depth. It just goes more ad nauseum.

June 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JasparinaM

I agree with this. I’m getting bored repeating the same phrases in Portuguese and English over and over again just to level up my crowns. It’s hardly motivating and only succeeds in boring me. Prior to this system, Duolingo made learning fun. Now it’s become repetitive and tedious.

July 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ethanloh

You can take the level-passing test to level up, so you don't do a lot of lessons. I do that a lot from level 3 and up

October 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Diane72505

My "crown level" is 447 but I have no idea what that really refers to. Is level 5 when you get 5 separate crowns?

April 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/lynettemcw

Each unit (Circle on the "tree" can have from 0 to 5 crowns. The circle changes colors for each crown level. They turn from purple at level 0 to blue for level one to green for level 2 to red for level 3 orange for level 4 and yellow gold for level 5. And yes, each level on each unit gives you one point. After you have completed one unit to level 1 you can either go to the next level or complete any completed level to the next. You can't go up the tree the first time out of order, but once you have completed the tree once, you can choose to work on any unit you want, and you can always work more on any completed unit. But different languages have a different number of units, so the crown level number does not have any obvious meaning. But if you had 10 units at level 1, 10 units at level 2, 5 units at level 3, 6 units at level 4 and 2 at level 5, your crown level would be 79. For me, the actual number is irrelevant. I use the colors to determine how I am doing.

April 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Diane72505

Thank you. I feel less confused about that now.

April 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/TobiHoffman

I just had my crown count severely cut in the French course, despite what I have read about not losing them. I have completed the course, as well as several others, and have continued rotating among these languages to keep developing, but to suddenly go from over 300 to 57 is quite a shock! It feels very unfair to me.

September 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Muyil

In the new Duolingo update, the hints are way small and I have been studying3 languages but I can get only two with the new app. Can't look @ profile, can't see leaderboard, seems less user friendly

October 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/lynettemcw

It sounds to me as if you should Uninstaller and reinstall the program. I haven't seen any of that, although I have noticed that different languages have slightly different versions. I am studying 6 languages and haven't lost access to any, although I have never been able to look at any language that starts from a different language from English without changing the language setup on my phone. The hints are different and perhaps a little glitchy, but not small, and the access to your profile is still at the bottom of the screen when you aren't in the middle of an exercise set. I am using the latest update of the Android app.

October 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ethanloh

That didn't happen with me. Everything was normal on the phone

October 9, 2018
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