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"Is the soccer game tomorrow?"

Translation:¿El partido de fútbol es mañana?

5 months ago

60 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Chris259822

es el partido de futbol manana? Why is this wrong? I accept that it is wrong, but I don't know why.

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Having referred this question to a native speaker, he responded that he believes it is a valid form but would prefer "¿Es mañana el partido de fútbol?"

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NotThatKate

I just tried (July 19, 2018) "Es mañana el partido de fútbol?" and it was accepted. Thank you for speaking to this.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lucalu4
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Como español puedo decir que es correcto, no tenemos un orden preestablecido para este tipo de oraciones.. Yo, sin ir más lejos, he entrado en esta discusión precisamente por usar la estructura "¿es el partido de fútbol mañana?" y dármela como incorrecta (la he reportado 16/08/18)...Es verdad, como te han comentado, que la expresión más usada puede ser "¿es mañana el partido de fútbol?", si bien no es la única.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FromLostTo
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Also we say... El partido de fútbol ¿qué es, mañana?

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FromLostTo
FromLostTo
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Or....El partido de fútbol ¿ cuándo es, mañana?

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Laurel266798

I came here to ask the same thing. Or at least to see if the sentence could be constructed roughly in this way.

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/99butcher99

make that 3 of us

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jessica297671

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https://www.duolingo.com/Donald798622

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https://www.duolingo.com/Akarshh
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https://www.duolingo.com/Julie798436

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https://www.duolingo.com/Emrys86

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https://www.duolingo.com/MorganRo
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https://www.duolingo.com/A-Lante

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2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JonathanTe168504

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1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JenniferSu318351

Should be accepted but preferable verb placement for questions is after the noun. Made the same mistake. I think it makes you sound more fluent and thumbs up to duo for helping us with that:)

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nick_Pr
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the preferred verb placement for YES/NO* questions is after the subject. With content questions you must front the verb.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Brigid
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Nick_Pr, thanks for your reply! Your differentiating YES/NO questions from content questions was especially helpful, and the reason I was stuck...

So thanks again & have a lingot!!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mojavejeeper

I thank you, JenniferSu for the answer but I think you meant "subject" rather than "noun". All subjects have nouns; all nouns aren't subject.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/randymoore14

Thr answwrr that i am getting from another site says es el partido de futbol manana is correct

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rr1134
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why does not the ES come at the beginning of the sentence instead of after the subject

only the inflection can make it a question

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Forming questions via inflection is extremely common in Spanish. Being a pro-drop language, it's definitely something one must become familiar with since there's very often no subject expressed to begin with, so there's nothing there to invert word-order wise.

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mark359873

"pro-drop language"? Please explain.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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https://www.duolingo.com/Mark359873

I see, thanks. For everybody it's an abbreviation for "pronoun drop". Something to impress your friends with!

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nikhil230114

I checked on web , we can write es el partido de futbol manana

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/redda18
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futbol is called futbol because of football, football should be an option

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnold469389

You are translating between American English and Spanish so soccer is used. If we were using UK dominant English I suspect that would apply.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Isabel303668

I'm wondering the same as Chris and Laurel. What is wrong with it??????

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Trumaine7

Ok I've asked this question many times to my Hispanic friends and on here and can't get a answer. Why and when are you suppose to switch words around like this

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nick_Pr
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With yes or no questions, you can use normal sentence word order. With content questions (qúe, quien, etc.) you move the verb in front of the subject.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nick_Pr
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(unless of course the subject is connected to the questino word, like "qué día")

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ZolKel
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You can use or have to use?

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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can use

Often you've got three choices:

  • ¿Va Roberto al cine? (If you've got an older Spanish textbook, this is likely the form it teaches)
  • ¿Roberto va al cine?
  • ¿Va al cine Roberto?

Grammar sources tend not to mention the third version, but here's one that does: https://mydailyspanish.com/how-to-ask-questions-spanish/

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nick_Pr
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Can, although on duolingo sometimes it makes it wrong if you do subject/verb inversion on a yes/no question. It is not wrong to do so, but it does seem to be quiet a bit more formal.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
piguy3
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"quién" isn't the best example because if it's alone, it is the subject; what you said applies if it's preceded by a preposition: "a quién," "de quién."

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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What do you mean by "switch words around like this"? It's plenty ordinary in Spanish to form questions just by switching out the period for question marks. In speech, the intonation would also be distinct. (One thing voice synth doesn't tend to be reliable on.)

Why does one form questions like this, as opposed to something like "¿Es mañana el partido de fútbol?" — I don't think there's much more to it than personal preference in any given situation, which is probably why it's hard for anybody to give you a definitive answer.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Trumaine7

Switched around as in "Soccer game"in English and "partido de futbol" in Spanish. There are plenty of levels where the Spanish sentences go along with English and then like this one, some words are flipped around.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Oh, yeah, didn't understand your question at all. It's much easier to answer if's clearer what you're referring to.

Why is it "partido de fútbol"? The short answer is that Spanish can't use nouns like adjectives like English can. "Soccer" is a noun, but in English, we can still use it to make many specific terms: soccer game, soccer goal, soccer field, soccer stadium, soccer cleats.

In Spanish, in general, you just can't do this. The most common equivalent of the [noun 1] [noun 2] structure is [translation of noun 2] de [translation of noun 1].

Some examples:

  • wedding dress = vestido de boda
  • chicken soup = sopa de pollo
  • house keys = llaves de (la) casa
  • math(s) teacher = profesor de matemática(s)

Of course, it's not the only possibility. Sometimes there's just a more specific word: traffic light = semáforo.

And sometimes there is an adjective that corresponds to the English noun:

  • border control = control fronterizo (among other possibilities)
  • airport security = seguridad aeroportuaria (or "seguridad de/del aeropuerto")
  • forest fire = incendio forestal.

I don't think there are really any general rules unfortunately, but you can always look up translations for things like this on a source like Reverso Context, http://context.reverso.net/translation/

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Trumaine7

Oh wow lol Ok. Now that's exactly what i needed. I really do appreciate it. And will look into it more with your link sir

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Brigid
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I can't imagine any reason someone would have down-voted your reply! It is unfortunate as it pushes your helpful remarks too far down the "page"...

Thanks for the effort you put into your reply!! Here's another lingot!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Trumaine7

Can't make everyone happy.. It is what it is

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ZolKel
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Is it a question or a statement? The upside down question mark is missing before the sentence and the order of the words suggests that it is a statement but at the end there is a question mark. Confusing.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ZolKel
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Sorry, I meant the order of words suggest it is a statement not a question. :)

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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The upside down question mark at the beginning isn't missing on this page.

Where did you see it missing?

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ZolKel
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I do not know. Now I see, that it is there. Strange.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LeathaGran

Sound more like a statement, rather than a question, to me.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kathy979841
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I also got the order wrong. I thought you could do it both ways

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/butterscotchmrrw

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1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AliGrether

My husband, who is a native Spanidb speaker, said my response is correct but you marked it as wrong!! Whats going on?

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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I'm guessing you put "¿El el partido de fútbol mañana?" Yes, it's apparently missing from the answer database as yet. It'll likely get there eventually. This sentence has only been in the system a few months (see the start date of the discussion), and that is I think the least likely of the three possible word orders for this sentence, so they missed it at the first pass. With the newer sentences, it's always more likely things are missing. Report them using the report button ("My answer should have been accepted"), and you'll help improve things for everyone.

(BTW, Duolingo staff don't look at these discussions much; they're read by fellow learners.)

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dave486677

My Spanish friends find some of the answers and phraseology on the site shall we say amusing! They do not understand why answers that are clearly correct are marked wrong! But hey ho it is a free site!

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Those are separate issues. The Spanish taught is Latin American. It can be quite different from peninsular Spanish. In the English from Spanish course it's easy to find dozens upon dozens of people complaining about the Spanish used in certain sentences, despite its being clearly correct in Latin America and recognized as correct by the Real Academia Española.

Missing answers, that's a problem certainly concentrated in the more recently-added sentences (of which, however, there are many). Missing translations are added over time.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeannaJohn4

The "correct answer" is a statement not a question

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Garrett115613

Same comment as Chris' below: why is our answer wrong? Interesting that the native speaker agrees with us!

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/moderndayflapper

I got all the words right but i am really struggling with the syntax of this sentence. Could someone break it down for me?

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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It's not clear what part you have a problem with, but if it's the "partido de fútbol" part, I'd refer you to my second reply to Trumaine7.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CaroleStew1

my question as well??

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nikhil230114

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2 months ago