https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

How do I get rid of the Crowns??

I accidentaly clicked on something which changed my fluency symbol to a crown. I really don't like this version of Duolingo! A discussion told me to use the command prompt but I don't know how to type in it or what to type...

Someone please help me :(

March 24, 2018

24 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchCamille

You shouldn't dwell over the loss of fluency. It was very in accurate.

March 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

I also do not like the way the exercises work now. I am not learning as much

March 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeNolan6

How do you know you're not learning as much?

March 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/laugzman

After giving the crowns system a try, I tend to agree w/ Nuria839823. With the fluency system, each lesson in a skill had different word content, so it wasn't repetitive & you could still revisit each piece if you needed to.

After completing a couple skills in the crowns system though, i noticed that if the skill says 0/5, for instance, all 5 lessons repeat the same words over & over & over. To take the dative skill in my German tree from 1 crown to 2, I completed 4 lessons, all of which repeated the same 5 sentences - so much so i could probably list each one.

I understand from the other posts i've seen that crowns are supposed to measure how many experience points you have in a skill.....but making you gain xp's by simply repeating the same 5 words a million times makes it really boring & exhausting. I also feel that for those 4 lessons I invested time in, I learned nothing. The sentences were really basic (one of them was "the cat gives the man a hat"), so it was wasted lesson time.

April 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Doctor-John

laugzman, I agree. With the crown system many of the exercises have become tedious. Some well-placed and well-timed repetition with a bit of variation can help reinforce learning, but when the user consistently experiences tedium, that's the user's response to inept pedagogy.

AndrewRangerG, in response to Nuria839823, seems to claim that a user doesn't know when he's learning less. In the long run, that's both arrogant and absurd. If the user doesn't know, who does, and how do they know better than the user? Ultimately, if a learning tool becomes too tedious for the user, that user will look elsewhere for ways to continue learning.

If the crown system is here to stay, then it needs work. In some respects it is currently a dis-improvement of what it replaced.

April 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

Yes, that is true! It is extremely repetitive- particularly in the first few exercises which are very easy and don't need to be repeated 100 times over

April 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

The exercises are shorter and it is easier to level up which I don't like

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/laugzman

I've also noticed that all the exercises that let you type in the target language have disappeared.

Where there used to be a nice healthy mix of word boxes and typing, both in English and the target language... in translation and in listening exercises, ALL the exercises that translate from English into the target language now ONLY do so with word boxes.

This may be different by language, but at least in my Dutch tree, the only exercises that ask for typing are those translating into English. I'm finding this extremely annoying.

I know how to spell in my own language, & I don't need any additional practice doing this, thank you. It would be more useful if I could practice spelling in the target language. And while repetition with word boxes does a surprisingly good job at helping you remember instinctively how a word should look, this still limits your ability to construct a sentence unasssisted, and to retrieve words from your own memory bank on the spot.

As for the listening exercises, it's easy enough to figure out what is being said when you have the words in front of you to choose from... all I can do is hope that when trying to chat with someone in Dutch, they too have word boxes hovering over their heads.

I really wish there was an option to turn these boxes off, so I can get in some practice without the added crutch!

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elisabeth3789

Have you checked at the bottom of the page? There should be an option that says "Use keyboard." If not, write to the support people.

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/laugzman

It wasn't there when i checked before, but i do see it now on the website version. I guess my app will be going temporarily into the freezer until it has this option. Thank you! Have a couple lingots!

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Doctor-John

laugzman, I agree the word boxes are often an unwanted crutch but was puzzled by your problem, as I do Duolingo 100% on the website. The website experience of Duolingo on a computer has always been the better option, as you can see for yourself. Of course, I can't do Duo on my computer while waiting for the bus. :-)

April 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KTKee-EnglishEng

Thanks for that info. They really should include that in the FAQ, it was doing my head in.

May 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

That's true, I deleted the app when I saw that you could change your preferences on the web version.

April 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

Hi, I've decided to give the crown thing a go but I don't really understand what it means...how does it work and what does it mean when it says I'm level 237?

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Doctor-John

Currently the maximum level is still 25. The 237 is the sum of your crown counts on all the topics (bubbles) in your learning tree.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Doctor-John

*inaccurate

FrenchCamille, Dwelling or not over the loss of fluency rating, it would be nice to have the option of choosing which system you want to use. The number of crowns apparently just correlates with your XP count, the same as your level, whereas fluency is or was at least an attempt to measure actual fluency. For example, in learning English from German I'm currently at level 13, but my fluency is 70%, higher than my fluency in German from English in which I'm currently at level 22. And indeed, I'm much more fluent in English.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Snotgirl

Has someone been able to help you yet? I saw your question about where to type in the command in another thread and replied to that. Reply to this if you still need help :-)

March 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

THANK YOU SO MUCH, IT WORKED!! :))

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mustcahio

Hi where can I find the other thread? Thank you!

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nuria839823

The method on the other thread doesn't work anymore :(

April 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rich_C

The crowns are terrible.

April 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/M.King-Rex

Help me get rid of Crowns! I tried something that was listed, but it did not work!

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Brian851903

M King-Rex, if you are referring to this, it no longer works: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/26677923

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ian773592

Your crown system is very unhelpful. How do I uninstall it? It is taking the fun out of learning.

April 10, 2018
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