https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Muss403695

Ho trovato Storie Per Bambini Con Le Traduzioni.

March 25, 2018

30 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

Nice page!
The stories might not be too thrilling, especially if you already know how they end. But I like the idea of breaking the text into paragraphs, hiding the translation, and providing a reading voice too, which is clear, slow (but not too slow), and has no particular inflection.
I've bookmarked it, just in case anybody in the forum asks for an easy reading / listening aid.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

.....and your endorsement makes it even better!

I am trying to read a bilingual Pinocchio at the moment. I so wish there could be audio with that too.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mmseiple

Try here: https://www.liberliber.it/online/autori/autori-c/carlo-collodi-alias-carlo-lorenzini/pinocchio-audiolibro/

Or here: https://librivox.org/le-avventure-di-pinocchio-by-c-collodi/

Both LiberLiber and LibriVox have lots of Italian audiobooks for works in the public domain. LiberLiber also has ebooks. LibriVox is just audiobooks, in pretty much any language you can think of, but there is typically a link to the text.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

Thank you so much. It would be really good to hear the Italian. I find reading easier than hearing and speaking.

Edit. I have now listened to chapter one on LibriVox. That is perfect for me. Thank you again.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

Thanks a lot for these links!

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/albaduine

Thanks! I look forward to reading and listening to these.

March 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

Thank you, HelenDaisy.
What an excellent challenge!
May I ask whether it is the original text, or an abridged version?

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

Hello, I hope it is the original text. It is translated, with notes, by Nicolas J. Perella. University of California Press. ISBN 978-0-520-24686-7. I bought it from Amazon, and I think it came from America via Dublin. Italian on the left, and English on the opposite page.

A happy nostalgia read for me. Pinocchio, in translation, was one of my father's favourite books, so I grew up with the story. He even bought me a full copy in the post war days when books were few and far between. He was a teacher, he loved language and a good imaginative story. Perhaps he hoped it would guide me to be a good little girl too. I cannot pass a shop selling wooden toys without going in to see if there is a Pinocchio puppet, and there usually is.

Yes, trying to read it in Italian is a grand challenge, but it gives me pleasure to try.

No Disney Pinocchio for me!

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

Yes indeed, it's the full text!
I read some excellent reviews about Perella's translation. The book also has the original illustrations by Enrico Mazzanti, which I find a quite fascinating addition.
If you can handle the text, your knowledge of the language is a good step beyond a beginner's level. Some time ago Mmseiple and I were discussing this topic (https://www.duolingo.com/comment/22334238).

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

Thank you for that useful link. Thank you too for your encouragement, although I fear that you read too much success into my word 'trying'!!! It is easy to make sense of it with the English translation alongside. The illustrations are delightful and so fitting. A book to love.

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NancyMihalich

This is a great Blog! I hope you like it! http://www.studentessamatta.com/

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

Thank you Nancy. Lots to look at and listen to there.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

In Goldilocks, the bears are drinking hot milk for breakfast. Is there an Italian word for 'porridge'? Do Italians eat porridge? Might we make ourselves wealthy by exploiting a gap in the market? It could fund the group trip to Italy.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

Good question!
There is no specific name for "porridge". It is commonly translated as avena (which is just the name for "oats", though, not that of the actual recipe). Avena is singular, and dealt with as any other mass noun.
Some people do eats oats or barley for breakfast, usually mixed with milk and other ingredients, such as fruit, cinnamon, etc.
It is not a traditional recipe, but it has gained ground over the past two decades or so.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bjornet

Yes!! Same with spanish it's avena instead of porridge

March 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/albaduine

Very nice, Muss... thanks for sharing!

March 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

Fantastic! I have just had a quick look and listen---just what I need. Slow enough to be able to try reading aloud with it too. Thank you for finding this. While I'm knocking back the Prosecco in your honour tonight, I'll be curled up with three little pigs.

March 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SuperLN1

Hi there! I'm Italian and I'm looking for English native speakers for a language exchange via Skype or Messanger. Please, feel free to contact me and we could arrange a meet. (Studying purpose only!)

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/elladior

Hi Laura! I would love to practise my Italian with a native speaker and also would be happy to help you learn English too! My Facebook name is Ella Dior if you want to look me up so we can message from there?

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/elladior

Buongiorno Laura! Voglio praticare il mio italiano con un italiano. Posso aiutarti anche a imparare l'inglese. Il mio nome di Facebook è Ella Dior. Scrivimi li!

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tina38500

grazie mille !

March 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tessa904278

Thanks for this.

March 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nick447035

The hard part for me is finding stories that I can read but are still interesting enough for me to care about. I read a lot of Stephen King in English, so children's stories really do nothing for me. It's exciting to be able to understand what I'm reading until I realize I'm not reading anything interesting. I read Goosebumps in Italian, but man it's tough for me and just mentally exhausting.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mmseiple

Out of curiosity, I looked up the Goosebumps series in Italian (Piccoli brividi, in case anyone else is curious), and the language is not that easy. A lot of people think that something written for a younger audience will be easier for a non-native speaker, and that is not necessarily the case. I would actually look up some horror/thriller books (if that's what interests you) written in Italian for adults and see if you can find something that better suits your level and your interests. I'll bet you can find something easier.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

When I was about 12 years of age, I used to enjoy a lot paperback thriller/mystery novels for young readers which came in a weekly series called Il giallo dei ragazzi, inspired by the more famous series for adult readers i gialli Mondadori. Most of the issues were translations from popular American series such as The Hardy Boys (most stories by Franklin W. Dixon), Nancy Drew (by Carolyn Keene ) and The Three Investigators (most stories by Robert Arthur Jr., although the Italian version amazingly mentions Alfred Hitchcock as the author!).
Many of these paperbacks are still on sale in ebay, at reasonable prices, although due to their age they are becoming collectable items. They are written in a fairly easy Italian; obviously, they are unsuitable for beginners. Being able to get hold of the original novel in English could also provide a parallel text translation (but I ignore whether the Italian translation is faithful or not).
This is the full list of titles issued since 1970, which mentions the original ones too:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_giallo_dei_ragazzi

A lot of people think that something written for a younger audience will be easier for a non-native speaker, and that is not necessarily the case.

This is absolutely true!
One of the most well-known books in children's literature, which in Italy probably had as many readers as Pinocchio, is Il giornalino di Gianburrasca (1912), inspired by Metta Victoria F. Victor's A Bad Boy's Diary. Despite having been written for 10 to 12-year-olds (...I still find it very amusing!), it would be tough to read for an average learner of Italian. There are quite a few idiomatic expressions, some names based on plays on words, a few Tuscan dialect terms, a few words or verb forms no longer used, etc. Without some footnotes it would be really difficult to fully understand for a non-native speaker. Regretfully, this book was never translated into English (it was into French and Spanish, though).
The brave who wish to engage in this challenge can find a free downloadable copy (several formats) in liberliber's website (https://www.liberliber.it/online/autori/autori-b/luigi-bertelli-detto-vamba/il-giornalino-di-gian-burrasca/).

March 30, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HelenDaisy

I am brave and ambitious-----I just hope I live long enough to achieve some of this. I should have started sixty years earlier!

March 30, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CivisRomanus

Bravissima HelenDaisy!
A few years ago there used to be Book Clubs (I don't know exactly how they worked, though, as they were active before I subscribed to Duolingo). This title would have been fun to read, translate and discuss.

March 31, 2018

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    thank you merci grazie danke

    March 28, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YarkoRab

    Do you ever take a rest? First the speadsheet now this .... How do you find the time? My compliments!

    March 29, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Muss403695

    Pensionato. (:-)) troppo giovane

    March 29, 2018
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