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Akkusativ oder Dativ?

I am saying “Tom is called my other brother “ - Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder OR Tom heißt meinen anderer Bruder??

March 25, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Xania77

"Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder" is correct, but it is not Akkusativ nor Dativ. I would say it is Nominativ, because you could say "Mein anderer Bruder heißt Tom". I am not very sure.

Akkusativ = WEN oder WAS Dativ= WEM

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/med.rotorrobot

Yes, it is the nominative case.

I doubt that the method of asking for a noun (wer oder was / wessen / wem / wen oder was) helps someone who isn't a native German speaker to determine the correct case. That is basicly a test for what sounds right to us or how we understand the world.

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AHA3006

Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder.

English is not my native tongue so I am not sure about this, but the word order of the English sentence seems odd. I'd take the English sentence talking about a Tom who ist not really my brother but is called so. If that is the meaning of the sentence, I'd use "Tom wird mein anderer Bruder genannt." or "Tom wird als mein anderer Bruder bezeichnet."

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Siobhn2

Thanks guys. Have no clue why I put dativ down should have put nominativ as Dativ would be meinem. Danke

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Siobhn2

Does that sentence sound odd to a native german speaker? “Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder”, the more I think of it (learner of German) the more it sounds off to me

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stepintime

No, it's fine.

From the word order, I would assume that the context is something like, "Oh, you're one of Stepintime's brother's, aren't you? Tom, right?", to which I reply, "No, this is my brother Tim. Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder." (Tom is the name of my other brother, not of this one.) - or - "I'd like to invite you, your brother Tim and your other brother to my birthday party." "Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder." (The name of my other brother, which you can't remember, is Tom.) Generally, you might think of it as "Tom is what my other brother is called."

If you just want to say that you have another brother named Tom, you'd say, "(I have two brothers. One of them is Tim, he's a baker and lives in Berlin.) Mein anderer Bruder heißt Tom."

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN

Danke.

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Siobhn2

I was using that sentence for an essay about my family and would give a paragraph to each member. I have two brothers so that was the reason I would use that sentence. The 2 nd brother is Tom so I presume I should say “Mein anderer Bruder heißt Tom” ?

March 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stepintime

Preferably, yes. You're definitely on the safe side with "Mein anderer Bruder heißt Tom".

It's possible, or at least not wrong, to say "Tom heißt mein anderer Bruder" here, but others could think it's debatable / too unusual.

March 27, 2018
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