https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SparklyJCH

Re-introduction of “health” restricts learning

I learn by making mistakes and now with the re-introduction of the dreaded “health” ... if I make an error or if my correct response is not recognised as being correct ... I am penalised. There are only something like 5 errors allowed before the session ends or we have to ‘pay’ to replenish. How can this be helpful to learning? I am now effectively locked out of the app for many many hours as it is unusable ....

March 28, 2018

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JOAT2B

You have four options to replenish: 1. Pay, 2. Wait, 3. Watch ad videos or 4. Strengthen older skills. I like the heart system because it forces me to slow down and pay more attention to and really think about what I'm doing. I make so many dumb mistakes, especially in languages using the Latin alphabet, because I was going too fast. I've known the difference between 'chico' and 'chica' for as long as I can remember, but you better believe I get it wrong when I'm trying to fly through a course. They're just trying to help you slow down, focus and really think about it.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SparklyJCH

Thank you for your comments. Before the recent changes I had completed all the stages and increased my knowledge by going over all the stages again ... constantly learning and revising. On the difficult really challenging sections I still make errors and I feel now that I daren't risk making errors or I’ll be quickly locked out. I watch all the videos etc. I will go back to the completed sections to see if that helps rebuild the health.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pentaan

Workaround

Switch to Duolingo's web version (www.duolingo.com) on your phone, because it .......

  • does not have the punishing "Health" system and gems
    (I hope this is still so in the new Duolingo layout (crown levels))

  • will work in the Chrome or Firefox browser on your phone or tablet, if you have rather good Wifi or LTE/4G with an Internet bundle.

  • uses a good teaching method: you can select "typing each word" instead of "clicking on predefined words"

  • often has grammar "Tips and notes"
    -- on the bottom of the lessons page of each skill, that introduces new grammar (Duolingo's old layout)
    -- in Duolingo's new layout (crown levels): tap the lightbulb next to the "Start button". Picture: https://i.imgur.com/wWY1Fpf.png .
    Note:
    On your phone/tablet you have to set the Chrome or Firefox browser in "Desktop mode" via the three dots in the upper right corner of the browser.
    (This may be impossible on iOS phones with a small screen)

Edited: one hour later.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SparklyJCH

Thank you!! I have iPhone and iPad and use Chrome ... and will try on the website as you kindly suggested. Thanks again

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SparklyJCH

I’ve put the website on my home screen and just finding the different features .. so many thanks for that great suggestion!

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

Hi, this is the French forum, for getting help with French grammar, vocabulary, resources, etc. Could you please edit your original post and use the drop-down list at top left to change the topic from "French " to "Troubleshooting"? That way it won't clutter up the French forum, and the answers you get might help others who look in Troubleshooting for answers to the same thing.

That said, when I had health (I don't, currently) all I had to do to get my health back was re-do some old lessons. It makes sense - if you're getting things wrong, it's probably time to slow down and review.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/psionpete

You are not locked out of the app, you are able to practice other skills (where you can make your mistakes without penalty). Oh, and practice also strengthens your health.

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SparklyJCH

Thank you ... I’ve gone back over earlier stages again and hope it strengthens the health!

March 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

Solution: Stop using the IOS app.

March 28, 2018
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