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Pronouncing R

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Merhaba, İt has been a bir more than half a yeae since i started studying turkish, and im still not sure how to pronounce r... İn some words like "sonra" or "nerede" the r is like in english, in others like "merhaba" or "kırmızı" it is a trilled r, in others like "türkçe" it is silent. İm very confused... Herhangi bir yardım çok iyi olacak. Teşekkürler!

March 28, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/frankenstein724
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It's always, more or less, the "trilled" r (though, I wouldn't call it a "trilled r" so much as a "flipped r"), it's just that how obvious that flipped sound is will naturally change a bit depending on the surrounding sounds. I disagree that the r is ever really like the English r. I can see where you are coming from for "ner(e)de", but even then, it still sounds like the flip is there, and it is definitely there in "sonra". I don't think it is completely absent in "türkçe", either, but it is definitely subtle.

I would just always try to get the "r flip" in there, and in some words it will just be more obvious than others based on the flow of the word.

source/experience: I'm in month 3 of a year-long course 5 hours a day with a native speaker. Obviously one native speaker is not representative of the entire speakership of the language...but it's not nothing, either. That, and we watch shows and movies in turkish a little bit every day.

March 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/EliadBenza
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Tamam. Teşekkürler! Have fun and iyi şanslar!

March 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/kara.tahta
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I would say that it depends on the region you are from. In cities like Diyarbakır, Şanlıurfa, Hakkari etc. you will see that their "r" is closer to the "trilled" r, but obviously not like the Russian or Spanish r.

March 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/frankenstein724
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Spanish has more than one "r" sound, and the less trilled one is exactly the "r" that Turkish uses.

March 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Enzfj2
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I suppose the words and sentences are pronounced by a native speaker rather then a text-to-speech engine, because in many cases I couldn't distinguish the sounds clearly, what is normal for the real human speech.
As for the R sound, sometimes (in the end of a word) I can hear something close to -s- in 'visual', or what is represented by the same, but initial, letter R in Chinese pinyin, e.g. 'hayır', 'peynir'.

March 30, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/qj7Yyoj5

I googled this when I started Turkish and thought that, though he is on a site I don't normally cite, this was a convincingly involved answer:

https://www.quora.com/In-Turkish-is-the-letter-r-pronounced-differently-when-positioned-at-the-end-of-a-word

March 31, 2018

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