I personally really like the crown update
I see a lot of posts talking about how bad the crowns are but they have really helped motivate me to do way more.
I guess I didn't really take Duolingo seriously before the update. I don't exactly know why but this new system motivates me to push through and do the exercises over and over.
I guess I like having a golden carrot to chase. I am yet to reach crown level 5 and not be prepared to deal with the next challenge. Whereas before I was often lost and overwhelmed.
I can understand where some of the posts are coming from but as a relatively new user this system has really allowed me to go above and beyond.
I didn't like the change to crowns initially--I liked keeping the tree golden, and appreciated the randomness of the strengthening. But now that I've had a few days with the crowns, I have a new strategy: at a minimum advance both a new skill and an older skill one crown each day. I'll stretch it to two days if I've got to do 10 times to get the next crown. The game's a little different, but with more intention on my part.
I used to have the same strategy of trying to keep everything gold, so maybe I'll give your new approach too.
I really dislike how Duolingo seems to have done a complete 180 on their philosophy of "you forget things with time, so we'll remind you what to study" to "learn at your own pace, with no guidance at all". I could do that with a textbook, but DL was more useful than that. Was.
I generally really like it too. But some lessons seem to me very difficult in low level.
I learn Polish. Lesson: colours, i have level one. There now are sentences with negation (where the case changes from accusative to genitive) and plural. So I have do decline all the colours and nouns in singular and also in plural and genitive. I really don't know what sentences they bring up at for level 5! And I can't just stay on level one. Each time i do the lesson, it will count to level up.
Yes, I had negation, I had plural, I had adjectives, but all at once in a lesson where the new vocabulary hasn't been imprinted jet, is too much for me.
I would need much more repetitions on lower level. And there are no conjugation and declination tables too look up the grammar.
As someone who has just reached level 25 in Polish I can feel with you. Yes, Polish grammar is complex. So many different ways to decline or conjugate something. So many rules. And then the exceptions of these rules ...
I have given up to learn all of it (for now). Instead I am just learning and looking up what I am interested in. And I don't mind if I answer something wrong. Duo is a very patient teacher, even if I make the same mistakes again and again. And often I learn more from my wrong answers than from the correct ones.
I think it is important to not expect to remember everything at once. Instead just be confident that you will learn something just by doing all these lessons (even if it sometimes doesn't seem so).
Thanks for sharing your experience for Polish. Im trying to get Polish to 25 as well, long way to go still
I agree. I don't have crowns, but I have heard a lot about it and I cannot wait for it! It will help motivate me and remember skills better because there are always some words that I am not doing well on, but with crowns, I can actually see exactly how many lessons I've completed instead of just a gold skill. I will be able to set a goal for myself and actually know which skills are weak and need to practice rather than a facade of gold over my weak skills. I can't wait!
So you don't feel like the system is feeding you too much repetitive exercises with words you already know?
It is less repetitive than it was before (when you strengthened skills or repeated lessons), as more difficult sentences and translations into the target language are added now.
Of course it is still repetitive when you go from 0 crowns to 5 crowns in one skill without doing other skills in between. But you don't have to do that. If it gets boring just stop practising this skill and switch to another one.
I really like the repetitive nature of it all I guess, I've paid attention to how the words interact with each other and it's cemented it into my brain. The way I am approaching the app now is I don't move onto the next task until I reach 5 crowns. With a personal goal to reach 5 crowns a day.
Before it felt easy to reach golden and I took that as the app telling me to move on when more often than not I wasn't, now I know I am ready to move on.
If you're at 5 crowns for a certain skill, is there any more motivation to keep practicing it? I don't have crowns yet, but I haven't seen anything about this.
As someone who is learning, once I have reached 5 crowns I've more often than not practiced enough to where I can move on with the next task. I don't know what it will be like further down the tree but for me it's been a steady difficulty curve.
Since I have completed it so much to get 5 crowns I know exactly where to refresh as I have become familiar with what the specific lesson gives me.
Its trash for those who have completed an entire tree and were fine with the system before though. My most worked and fully understood skills have a maximum level of 2-3. The repetition is great for new learners, but for linguistic veterans (like most duolingo updates) it can easily end up being a nightmare.
it's great for people who are at levels 1-6 but once your past level ten it is deffintly not as great.
In English or French I'm just repeating what I learned years ago in school and in France, and where I just tested the tree out. OK, in French I'm not through, but definitively at a higher level than Polish even if Duo says something else because I'm doing more Polish than English or French. There I have absolutely no problem with the Crown-system. The tree isn't golden any more. Yes, colours are beautiful too, and in some time it will get golden again. If it takes years, never mind.
In Polish I have problems with the new System: It's too fast for me. Polish has a quite difficult grammar and I would need much more repetitions on lower level. I will get along wit it also, but at the moment I'm really confused. And mark: In all my languages a was over the level 6 where you think, the change isn't great.
Where is the difference if you repeat certain lessons to hold the tree golden or if you repeat the lessons in the new system to get the tree golden. You don't need to do all at once. Every day one skill one level and you'll hit the goal. I'm here to learn languages. For that, repetition is necessary. And I don't mind which colour the lesson has that I repeat.
Indeed... furthermore, now you cannot choose which part of a lesson to study. I read a lot of comment about people that are been re-engaged to duolingo, but it is because they have had practice for 4-5 days... After a long time of practicing, this crown system is tedious and the advance is by far much slow. So disappointed that I want to quit duolingo...
In languages with word list you can:
in the list you can click at a word of the lesson you want to repeat. Then a info pox pops up at the right. Under "skill" is the lesson named where the word is in. When you click on the lesson, the old menu will reappear. Only the one with the word is highlighted and can be practiced, but at least you can see what is in the other lessons and can than choose other words for further lessons.
The Crowns system is horrible. You people are out of your minds. IT IS WAY TOO EASY NOW AND BORING!
The crowns REALLY help on mobile. Easy exercises were a huge problem on mobile but crowns almost fix it and actually make you type out problems in later exercises. :) I don't really see why people complain about crowns over just some colors. A visual indicator of how practiced a skill it would be nice and I saw that they were working on that in the FAQ thread but that's the only slightly bad thing about the visuals I see. I made a suggestion on the only other problem I have with how crowns work on mobile but crowns are amazing so far!
Having a way to increase the difficulty of duolingo exercises has been something I've wanted for a very long time and now we have a way to do that so I'm very happy with crowns! :)
I'm interested in trying it by myself for sure. Unfortunately, I wasn't part of their crowns feature A/B testing.I think because 10 days ago, I was just an inactive user on Duolingo.
I guess I'll have to wait for it until it has been rolled out for all the users.
I was 62% fluent in a language, and liked the idea of having all golden, motivating me to practice and revise in the same time, and see how far I was progressing. But now all has changed to crown, I don't see the percentage of where I am anymore.. plus I spent several days to do again "Basics 1" lesson. It took me a waaaaay too long to do the same questions every time, for a complete golden skill. All got so boring (three days (more the 40 times ) to practice 4 words I already knew.. ). I don't think I will spend time to do again all the former lessons I already know. I think this update is very brutal.. I wish my golden skills remained golden within the update, and I wish there were still a way to check our percentage. For me, number a crowns isn't a relevant value, you can have almost complete all the lessons, and have less crowns than someone who has done 50 times the first lessons.. What happened to the timer practice also ???
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While I was an avid Duolingo learner, I haven't visited the site in quite a while, but I'm now starting again. I'm sorry but I don't seem to be getting the crown system. I'm used to trying to make every skill/lesson gold through my practice. What is my goal now in order to understand I'm progressing? Can someone, please, explain? I've started my Spanish again, which I remember almost perfectly and seem to be at two crowns in every lesson. I've practiced multiple times but nothing has changed: even Basics 1, which I have long passed, is still at two crowns. What is going on? Thanks in advance.