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You guys realize you still have the old shield symbol for the moderators in that "Who are the forum moderators?" page, right?
But really, I think this page will push back the "plz can i be a mod" type of posts that new users post. Good job, Duo.
Now about those bell notifications...
Thanks for bringing it up! The symbol on the "Who are the forum moderators?" page is updated.
I jumped ship once due to my frustration. The second time I am assuming it was because I wasn't active enough, which I can't blame them for.
I had assumed you'd left in high dudgeon after a public difference of opinion with TPTB. Which is a shame because you were one of the very few who actually had enough experience of how discussion boards work and who had sufficient grasp of the cultural variation on an international board to make it work. I find it hard to believe that recruiting in the current mode will improve the situation but I suppose we shall see. :-/
I remember reading something about that site, but I'm not sure if I did anything about it...
And you tried to lure me into it once!
Oh gosh, I'll quit Duolingo tomorrow, and I'm going to miss quite a few people. When times were good, they were gooooood.
Are you on Jo's site, Annika? It's a godsend for keeping in touch - or arranging to keep in touch.
@Theron, I knew when I posted that what you would post next. I haven't clicked it yet but it involves troikas and burying the dead, doesn't it?
eta (Jings, the Red Army version?)
Hohenems, it is so alienating and disheartening to see you without a ring. I cannot see these forums without knowing you were among that first group of people brought on to help engineer this forum community. You never passed your legacy ring to another person as far as I know. I am disheartened by this turn of events. As my mentor, you had a critical, formative impact on me. :'(
You mean they took it off you and didn't tell you why? I'm not impressed by that, though I can't say it surprises me.
Couldn't agree more, especially how differently the forums are populated now. :)
Well, who would pass a chance to show off? After all we all are Humans Primates
- 1) Why can a global moderator not move wrong postings from language sub-forums to the general DuoLingo(English), DuoLingo(German), DuoLingo(Portuguese) or Troubleshooting sub-forums for himself?
Every time I see moderators ask users to EDIT their own posts to move threads between sub-forums!
Isn't that ridiculous? Shouldn't your forum software support that moderator job?
- 2) When will we see a new full feature blown Open Source 3rd Third-Party software DuoLingo forum for the main forums with additional added sub-groups and sub-forums (e.g Clubs, Introduction, XP-challenges, change-/feature requests, etc.)?
This has been requested for a while in other threads...zero feedback from DuoLingo staff/admins.
BTW: I am not talking about the "sentence discussions":
I understand very well that this functionality incl. nested sub-posts is very proprietary and can not be (or should not be) replaced - there is no need.
Wouldn't it be much better to have new moderators sign up when the forum software used actually supports a "moderator status" with more / better admin-functionality?
Just compare that and the current "discussion forums" to any bigger hobby forum (e.g surfing, RC model flying).
Can you please give a concrete timeline when the next version (code update) of the discussion forum software is able to give all those more powerful moderator features
when/if you have any plans to convert the "normal discussion sub-forums" to a much more powerful 3rd party OpenSource forum software to please your userbase (e.g recent updated threads with comments in the last 24 hours, find your own created threads, find all your threads you have replied to, etc.) and to make the job of your moderators a bit easier?
I would be very pleased to read about it on your http://making.duolingo.com blog!
With best regards
Quote Lrtward: The educator's forum is for teachers to get help with the "Duolingo for Schools" product. I delete MANY posts from that forum every day, but I always send an email saying that I did it, and I provide a copy of the post so that the person can just copy-and-paste into the correct forum. I'm sure other moderators are working hard to keep that forum on topic, as well.
I have great respect for all of the hard work, which your moderator team is putting into the DuoLingo discussion forums.
Unfortuantely, in some parts you are even forced to misuse a forum software.
I delete many posts from that forum every day
I always send an email saying that I did it, and I provide a copy of the post so that the person can just copy-and-paste into the correct forum
Why does the forum software not have a feature of giving an active (automated) warning to the user by pressing a button, so you do not have to write it manually?
It is good that you give the alternative text. Well-done!
Does it then contain all "hard-working" formatting codes too?
Personally I would be pretty p....d off if a valid, well-written longer post of myself would be deleted, because it can not be moved, only because I had choosen maybe the wrong sub-forum by mistake.
However, this is IMHO the wrong way (and too time consuming) by the moderator team in having to deal with valid posts, placed in the wrong forum discussion sub-forums.
I can see it every day.
Spanish, French, Portuguese, etc. language sub-forums.
Where posts should be originally located in Troubleshooting or DuoLingo(English/German).
The sheer amount of user posts is almost not handable...this is quite understandable because of the million of users and double/triple duplicated threads for the same subject....just because the search / suggestion function is so bad.
Thank you so much Lrtward and moderator team for giving your best to trying to workaround the current forum software as best as you can.
We need more sub-forums!
I posted this REQUEST thread one year ago: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/19951606/Luis-DuoLingo-team-Please-open-a-new-sub-forum-for-clubs-maybe-2nd-chat-new-user-introduction
Unfortunately it was not heard by staff.
Anyone cares to reply?
Club sub-forum reason:
DuoLingo mobile clubs with the new "search for a random club" implemented IOS/Android feature in newer app versions - but missing user JOIN FILTERS - are not really meant to be set to PUBLIC.
Posted club threads are almost instantly down-voted in the language sub-forums, so this is obviously no real solution.
Because of the MANY missing sub-forums, which every serious 3rd party Open Source forum software provides, the clutter on your DuoLingo discussion forums is very (too) high.
It makes to me not much sense that moderators have either to delete many posts or ask users to manually move them for themselves.
I nominate Huy_Ngo for a moderator. He has helped explain needed aspects of Vietnamese above and beyond what the tips provide. I do not know if he is even interested but he exemplifies what you are looking for.
I've been thinking about applying for a while now because Duolingo is a passion of mine and I had actually scheduled to do it last Saturday, but I decided to wait for a bit more. Now I see this post, it must be a sign, haha. I just sent in my application, let's hope for the best.
Good luck Izim_M, you seem like a good pick.
Thanks Nuno, I appreciate that. I've seen in the comments below that you're not interested yourself, but if you ever are I also wish you the best of luck. You stand out in the forums.
Moderation is hugely important to the quality of the site, and should be a paid position.
Lots of websites have moderators who work unpaid, but just because of their interest in wanting the site to succeed. I did it on another website for three years, and it was great fun! Wouldn't have wanted any payment in all honesty (but wouldn't have said no if it was offered). Was also something to put on the CV too under volunteering which is nice.
Alan, You would make a great employee. I would love to have more people like you working for me!! Seriously, I wish you the best, Daniel.
Well that's certainly good to hear, thanks! On a semi-serious note, I'm soon to be unemployed, so if you would have any jobs going in and around the London area, I'm all ears.
The advantage of having unpaid moderators in the forums is that it provides a bridge from the community to the company, and community mods tend to understand the community better than someone inside the company. I’m actually ok with it. Besides I’ll bet they get loads of lingots.
We do get loads of lingots! Folks give me lingots all the time, which is fun, because I like to give out lingots.
Duolingo's mission is to provide free language learning to the world. Paying moderators does not help them accomplish that goal.
Paying moderators does not help them accomplish that goal.
You get what you pay for.
Many non-profits, and charities of all sizes have paid employees. That doesn't invalidate their missions to provide beneficial services to the world at large. Moreover, Duolingo's operating costs are somewhere in the vicinity of $20M/year. Dedicating a couple hundred thousand to hire several full-time qualified moderators doesn't strike me as a huge additional burden. The only issue surrounding whether Duolingo should pay its moderators is if the benefit of hiring such skilled employees is greater than their cost.
I disagree. I would rather Duolingo dedicate their funds to hiring the team that create the product.
There are many talented individuals who are more than willing to devote some time voluntarily to being moderators and do a fine job of it too.
Having moderators from the community makes the community itself feel more together, as it's not 'staff' as such as users helping other users, and also it allows people from all countries and walks of life to be moderators, rather than hiring in a specific location.
So I think having unpaid mods from the community is beneficial :)
I agree that having unpaid mods can be beneficial in that the mods feel more like "community members" instead of "staff". That's a valid point. And you're right that there's certainly qualified people that wouldn't mind doing the job on a volunteer basis.
The Duolingo budget isn't a zero-sum game though. Even though the company isn't paying money directly to moderators now, they are spending money on staff members to manage and train the volunteers (and look into complaints). If spending $200k on paid moderators frees up $250k worth of time from other staff, that allows $50k more dollars to be spent on "creating the product", not $200k less.
I love giving lingots. I don't use them, so here's 4 to give to some lucky people!
I agree jsiehler. Sure it can be fun, but it's a tough job at times and there's a lot of tough calls to make for an online forum to operate properly and it's better if professionals make those decisions
You might want to put that information in the main post, unless you want to sort through a bunch of unnecessary and incoherent applications from power-hungry and power-abusing skiddies.
I am curious; are there significantly fewer moderators than needed right now? The fact that this announcement was made seems to suggest that.
If a post disappears, that doesn't necessarily mean it was deleted, it could just be that it got enough downvotes. Not saying that's what happened, I don't know what post you're talking about.
Edit: I found the post and it hasn't been deleted - link below.
Yes, some critical posts were removed by moderators. Not downvoted, but removed. I do not know if the posters were notified.
I responded to one yesterday that was not in any way against the guidelines. No swearing, no personal information. Just criticism. It was entitled “Discussion Clogged By Complaints.” Now it is Error 404.
Clearly Duo has decided to ignore the wave of crown complaints.
I'm sure they'd decided that before it was released to everyone. Just like when they removed Immersion, removed Activity, etc.
I'll take your word for it on the one post being removed but it's pretty obvious if you've looked at the "New" posts over the last few days that there hasn't been any large-scale censorship of criticism. JustyyBear's post at least is still here. https://www.duolingo.com/comment/26866081
No, it does matter. If lots of posts are being removed, then you have a consistent policy of censorship. If you have one or two posts removed and dozens left, then you don't. We've had dozens left.
I can't say there isn't a rogue mod out there who decides to censor criticism of Duo from time to time. I've seen enough that I can say without the slightest doubt that censorship isn't Duo's standard policy or something that they expect mods to do.
Glad that Duolingo is still expanding its staff to keep the forums in check and to further help others learn! :)
To which I can only resort to the words of the late, great, inimitable Douglas Adams:
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
Excellent quote! I'd argue that moderators are not rulers, though. I have no desire to preside over anybody. I applied, but I'd really only be useful in the main forum, as my language skills are high enough, yet, so I don't expect to be accepted. I do like the idea of people nominating others. That is an ideal situation, but not everyone is willing or able to do so, even if they would be fabulous at it. Some simply don't have time.
Edit: We meet every Wednesday for schnapps and pannenkoeken. Edit 2: You should come check us out sometime. We often play Kalooki and wataya breaks out his didgeridoo at least once a month.
I'm in but only if Hohenems is and brings the accordion.
Down at the old Bull and Bush. Well, at least Helpful seems to have brought everyone back to the boards. :-)
I've not seen that since I studied the Middle English lyric in my first year at university, around the time that Adam was a lad.
great quote. People who are power hungry are not the people you want with power. I think we meet people like this in all types of jobs, people that are there for the wrong reasons. Could be a police officer, a manager at some franchise or even a teacher. Some people just seem to really like the power they have over people, not care so much about actually helping the people.
Of course not all, and those ones do make the rest look bad.
what can ya do.
Just wondering... Why does a mod have to be 18+ ? Since I started using duolingo, I always wanted to become a moderator, in order to give back to the community. But every time I tried I couldn't just because of the age limit... Some kids under 18, have amazing language talents, and in some cases much more time than adults to volunteer and help out. And as well does duolingo offer internships? -CaptainKaya-
A number of reasons, I assume:
Ability to enter with good faith and full understanding into a legal contract - which an agreement to be a moderator is, albeit unpaid. Yes, there are various interpretations of this as 13, but 18 seems to be the gold standard.
Self-control. Moderation is only a little about language, and a lot about social skills and emotional intelligence. Most kids - including myself in my teens, and almost all the ones here who are super keen to be moderators - seem to be unable to stay above the fray and sustain a detached POV about others. I have seen so many people who claim they want to be moderators insult trolls, resort to the "I know you are but what am I" approach to things, and chortle about others being banned. Moderators need to be able to control themself above all, even in the face of the most brutal and blatant abuse. I know very few kids who can do this. As you mature, personal provocations matter less and less.
In the end, Duo decides, and their criteria is rather opaque, for all they have a list of characteristics.
Lord of the flies is a good illustration of Dcarl1's second point, and a good way to spend some time. The book.
Same reason you have to be 18 to vote... The reasons for an age limit seem fairly obvious.
I have a question: Can minors be moderators too?
I'm a Native Spanish Speaker and I would love to collaborate in the Duolingo Forums! It's going to be a pleasure working with so many people and make others join the race to learn a new language.
I would like to nominate Heike333145 as a moderator. She is very helpful and shares her ideas. (She appears in the "Can't be bothered anymore. Spanish" thread.) I was feeling very upset with DL but, as a result of her suggestion, am now starting to enjoy it again.
You might get an automated response such as "thank you for submitting" But, otherwise you'll only get a reply if your application is selected. The same is true for people who apply for other Global Ambassador positions. :)
How will one know if they have been denied versus their application not looked at yet?
Thank you ALeason... but I'm more of a spontaneous lone wolf kind of helper than someone who wishes to be integrated in a team with a certain level of compromise and guidelines to follow. :)
That could still make for a good mod.
From experience (elsewhere obviously) I know that many of those who absolutely want to be a mod in a situation where moderation is already good, are often those who mainly crave power/status and are likely to abuse/misuse those powers. You're aware of things that might pose a conflict, which already goes a long way in preventing/avoiding issues, thus maybe you should apply (if you want to).
I'd have quite a bit of confidence in you.
I think Nuno should think about being a moderator, because he's fluent in two languages and is high level in German. He's helpful, kind, and smart. If anyone deserves to be moderator, it's him
And I know you're not supposed to "nominate" someone, but I hope Nuno reads this and thinks about this...
Never mind I would apply but I don't want to give my address to them even know I trust them, no.
Being a Duolinguist who has only recently started using the Discussion feature, I will leave it to the much more qualified candidates out there. An interesting role to look at in the future though. Good luck to everybody!
That's great! I know a couple of people who frequent the forums and are very helpful.
just applied, and i need to know, how long will it take for me to become a moderator? just curious.
It varies greatly. It depends on whether or not moderators are needed in the forum(s) that use the language(s) in which you are fluent, how many other people have applied, etc.
They also watch folks for consistency in behavior. I became a moderator back when users were suggested by other mods and invited by staff (there was no application), and I've been told they watched me for many months - nigh on a year.
So if you want to be a moderator, control yourself at all times, be helpful in the forums, and be consistent in your attendance (maintain a long streak).
Moderation is not about policing, but about setting an example.
I have to agree with the people who think this is a bad idea. It's not even something we need to speculate about. Too many organisations do forum moderation on the cheap like this and it always ends up being detrimental to users in some way.
Steam is a shining example. Moderation is way too aggressive, the company (Valve) doesn't care because it doesn't want to upset the unpaid labour, and most of the official forums lack any sense of community. They are dominated by moderators and end-users who are desperate to become moderators.
I have always said that if you want to be a moderator then you are probably least suitable for the role.
Mogę być moderatorem dla Polaków , albo ludzi uczących się mówić po Polsku , gdyż jestemz Polski i mówię w tym języku bardzo dobrze
That`s is awesome! Help each other is the best way to help ourselfes! Tks for share!
There are a few different Spanish forums. Here is the Spanish for English speaker's topic forum: https://forum.duolingo.com/topic/2. Here is the Spanish general forum for Spanish speakers: https://forum.duolingo.com/topic/217
Let me know if you were looking for a different one! I'll need more specific information though. Each course with either a Spanish base language or a Spanish target language will have either a Spanish general forum or a Spanish for x speakers topic forum. ^_^