This may be a little off topic, but well worth a mention aimed mainly at those considering attending a local foreign language meetup group. Just been to my very first and im so glad I was brave enough to go. Mainly it was all about Getting to know you, likes, dislikes etc etc, all in Italian of course, with the odd few natives to hand to make corrections. It was absolutely brilliant to be among people with different skill levels but strange to be a teacher and a learner at the same time. I understood almost everything that was said but struggled a little to talk, the words would not come quick enough. Practice practice practice. Is it next week yet.
Well done Muss. I so struggle with the speaking too. If I manage to connect my brain with my mouth, the latter lets me down by getting the sounds wrong. I need to spend a month with an Italian family who only feed me if I speak Italian.
Bravo Muss. I know how hard you work and what it means to you. Our meet-ups are fortnightly and I like so look forward to them:-) (Incidentally I replied to your "other message" under Happy Easter, I think it was. Ancora una volta, bravoooo! Practica x 3.
Muss. Grazie per questa nuova parola. "Google how to say in I...." told me that it's "rackaprichiante" so I'm well away. Una buona giornata a te.
Congratulations on making the leap! It's nice to hear that you've gone and enjoyed yourself!
I've been considering doing the same myself for a while now, I've been learning Italian for nearly 2 years now, but never really had a chance to practice speaking aloud. Something I've learned recently, is that in order to make any sort of progress in life you need to put yourself outside your comfort zone, and that the more you put yourself outside the comfort zone, the bigger that zone becomes, and the more comfortable you get doing things that were difficult before. Pretty obvious I guess..
I've actually been considering planning a language group through Duolingo, since that's a thing that you can apply to do now, and there isn't really anything going in my area. Being someone who has had issues with shyness in the past when I started learning Italian, I think that going to a group and talking to people face to face would provide me with that push I need to really get going with my learning. I'm getting pretty good at the written language, but need to have that extra step in my learning.
Thanks for sharing your experience, you've got my head ticking again on what I want to do to further my learning! :)
Fantastico. This was the whole point of my post, Happy to hear you are considering the big step. Buon fortuna,
I was looking at the meetups website you mentioned, and I actually found a local group that meet a couple of times a month, and so I'm considering tagging along and seeing how I get on! The hardest step with any of these things is giving yourself that initial push and getting past the nerves of meeting new people, but I think I will be able to give it a go and I'm sure I'll enjoy finally putting the language I've been learning to use!
Thanks again for inspiring me!
Grazie!!!! Ahaaahah ...... avevo frainteso! Sono un'italiana permalosa! Ti offendi se ti correggo? Si dice: << con qualche italiano/ con alcuni italiani>>. By by
Ciao, e si dice "bye bye" (una parta di goodbye). Le correzioni sono molto importanti vero? Una buona serata, L.
Ciao ancora MT. No no, il tuo inglese è fantastico (come il mio italiano :-(
Si, qualche,pochi, etc. in this phrase odd refers to numbers, 1,3,5 ...and not peculiare.. More stricktly it means Not very many.
On more than one occasion I have found that although individual words might translate from one language to another, The actual meaning or sentiment may not. I know two everyday English phrases that are actually offensive when spoken in Italian, to Italians. One of them has the English meaning of not rushing or Chill out or not to stress yourself, all English people will have used the phrase thousands of times as a parting gesture. The same phrase in Italian has a very, completely different meaning.
Sono un po' nel buio, ma forse a bit like "the odd native speaker..." etc. Yes, British humour and phrases can often be misunderstood, particularly our sarcasm and self-deprecating fun. Grazie per un commento interessante.
Molto bene, Muss. I don't think it's off topic at all. Meetups are such a great way to meet other like-minded and passionate people who are all trying to figure out this language thing. Well done, you're setting a good example for the rest of us.
Much appreciated. ( which I know in Italian, but cant remember its spelling hihi )
https://medium.com/meetup/meetup-rebrand-22087674d546 “ their thing” In this context
Muss, ah now I see why you used the '. I didn't like to nag. Ciao a presto...L
Why not join Max Moli's club. I couldn't resist Peanut's invitation! Dcarl has also joined. Sig. Moli invited all those on my Happy Easter message. Una buona giornata, L
I tried going to a couple of those way too early on, it's great to hear from someone who has completed the course here about their experience, I've been wondering if I'm ready to try again and this gives me a lot more confidence.
It's such a mental game, isn't it, trying to speak? I go to a an annual conference that always has a large Italian contingency and I'd love to use that to practice, but the moment I try to speak I forget everything but the most utterly basic words. I can understand a lot, I even had a whole conversation with a friend with him speaking his native Italian while I responded in my native English! But the hump of putting my thoughts into words quickly enough to chat with someone... it's a major hurdle.
Anyone have advice for those of us getting ready to brave this?
I've been listening to a lot of Italian media and recently started journaling in Italian, really hoping the latter makes it easier to get more rapid and accurate at turning my thoughts into Italian sentences. But that's all I've been able to come up with so far, so any more ideas would be very welcome!
Despite finishing the Italian tree recently, I would not say that I am able to hold a conversation beyond real basic things. So far I have only attended two mertings ( thats all thete has been ) and have made many mistakes while speaking. Maybe its my attitude to life because it does not bother me in any way, plus there is a safety net of foreigners making all sort of mistakes with their English. We are all learners and teachers at the same time but you have to put yourself through the embarrassment of mistakes while speaking to learn how to speak. You say that your mind goes blank despite having enough vocabularly, in my opinion the mind to tongue connection will only be made by speaking, as no amount of grammar books or apps can help in this area. Be brave and go to another meetup, this time next year you will be able to look back and thank yourself for doing so.