Object Pronouns - worth mastering?
The object pronous section seems very poor and I am facing a choice. I either go learn about object pronous putside of duolingo then come back to do the tests or I just use trial and errorto blast through it.
I am tempted to do the latter as I am worried about losing my forward momentum but wondered if people think this is sensible?
I also wonder if my question applies more generally. I initally loved duolingo but the lack of grammar and the poor quality of some sections means it can be frustratingand slow. I thus wondered if I might be better shelving duolingo, learning the theory elsewhere then coming back to duolingo if I want practice?
The object pronouns section is one of the poorest in the Spanish Duolingo tree.
I would encourage you to not abandon Duolingo because of object pronouns. Rather, I would recommend using additional sources to understand object pronouns. And, then, continue your Duolingo studying.
You are going to need to understand object pronouns, so barreling through is going to eventually be problematic for you.
Ok ta, I took the test after object pronouns so that I can keep moving forward but I will definitely go do some research now.
Out of interest are there any other similarly poor but important sections that I should go do some additional research on?
Yes, you definitely need other resources to understand the reflexive verbs, direct and indirect objects, and various conjugations of verbs.
It is natural to feel frustrated with that section if you have never seen object pronouns before. I thought it was impossible to understand them at that point and that is where I should call it quits. But it really is not that difficult. I suggest just moving forward even if you don't have full understanding of them. You will gain understanding down the tree. Read all the discussion on sentences with object pronouns. As for as the rest of the tree difficulty it only get hard in the sense there are way too many tenses/moods thrown in at the end with not enough examples. But that is close to the end of the tree.
Perfect thanks, good to know its not just me who found the section very frustrating. The discussion feature isn't on iOS which is what I normally use so guess I need to run through it on the website.
Glad to hear there aren't immediately going to be more sections as frustrating as this one, if there were I think I'd just take a break from duolingo now and come back once I'd advanced using other sources...but sounds like that would be un-necessary.
Using trial and error is DL's recommended tactic as it is the method we all used to learn our native tongue. Only when we could hold some basic conversations did we start to learn grammar etc. however most of us want to progress a bit quicker than that so we use DL and grammar books/lessons together. Choose whichever works for you and use DL as an excellent tool and not a magic wand.
Certainly, my question wasn't really whether I should use it as a magic wand it was more about how best to use it. If there were lots more sections like this one to come then I'd have given up on DL for some period whilst researching then come back to it just to do some revision. Seems that's un-necessary so I'll keep doing with DL and just do the research on the side.
Duolingo is excellent, but it is not going to teach you everything you need to know in order to speak another language. You need to supplement your learning with outside sources.
There are other sites out there which are also excellent, but fall short with drilling and repetition; Duo is really strong in this area.
For Spanish grammar, my favorite source of information is SpanishDict.
Here is a link to the Duolingo Wiki, created by Duo students. This link takes you to the section about other sources that are good for language learning. Some are good for grammar, others for pronunciation, others for writing or speaking or listening.
Ta for the wiki link, lots of content on there for me to take a look through.
Here's something on object pronouns that can supplement your Duolingo lessons:
Also, this book is amazing: http://www.amazon.com/English-Grammar-Students-Spanish-Learning/dp/0934034419/