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Learning Dutch

Any tips and tricks ? Bedankt !

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https://www.duolingo.com/Susande
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When you're learning from the reverse course the first important things probably are noun genders and word order. And it's probably best to start learning how words are pronounced right away, so you don't come up with incorrect fantasy pronunciations in your mind. You can find some example sentences here.

For word order, see the link given by Montalban. Also for simple sentences a good rule of thumb is that the verb comes in second position (not necessarily the second word):

{The first woman} {is} {tall} = {De eerste vrouw} {is} {lang}

{He} {bakes} {bread} = {Hij} {bakt} {brood}

This also goes for where/who/when/how/etc. questions.

{Where} {is} {my father} = {Waar} {is} {mijn vader}

For yes/no questions the verb comes in first place. {Is} {that} {a book?} = {Is} {dat} {een boek?}

For genders see the first reply by Lavinae here. When in doubt and you need to choose, go for "de". There are more words with "de" than with "het". And as Montalbano already mentioned, all plurals use "de".

If you're looking for some ways to learn next to Duolingo, you can read news articles (e.g. nu.nl or listen to Dutch music, krill, mirandamirandaa and myself give some examples here, youtube is your best friend. :)

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask, I'm a native Dutch speaker.

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Hallo Susande. Thank you very much for your complete feedback !! :D

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https://www.duolingo.com/qaa2
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Its fairly hard to learn Dutch in reverse that is learning Dutch through a Dutch course to learn English. My suggestion is to go slow and do lots of practice.

Dutch has some peculiarities which does not make it easy to learn, for example the difference between the two form of the work "the" ie 'de' and 'het' and depends on the noun that follows. They are not interchangeable. There is a long list of rules, though this is not the best way of learning it, I have found. I find it is best to learn the combinations, and once you get the feel of it, you can make a good stab as to what it might be for an unknown word.

Hope this helps.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Arthurva
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Fair comment!

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Oh yes, sure it helps :) Bedankt !

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https://www.duolingo.com/Montalbano
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I'm studying Dutch this way, too. Before I start a lesson, I look up the Dutch meanings of the English words to be studied in that lesson.

The word order in Dutch sentences is a stumbling block. It keeps coming up again and again, and if I forget I'll lose a heart. http://tinyurl.com/25jchhy is a pretty good review page.

If I lose 2 or 3 hearts early in a lesson, I just refresh the page and start over from the beginning, rather than hanging on by a thread and then getting bounced out late in the lesson.

If you're like me, you'll sometimes not see the "type what you hear" and instead do the Dutch translation, but that's good as long as you don't hit the finish button, because the sentence will probably show up again, in Dutch. The "type what you hear" questions are of course "gimmes" for native English speakers.

One of the problems I have is trying to keep my streak going and I don't get points for a lesson unless I make it all the way through. No points for trying and losing. For a tough lesson that can be very frustrating. So: On a day when I don't have much time, I do one of the timed strengthening exercises to start with. If I only get a couple of them right, it counts toward my streak.

Remember a plural noun is a "de" word, and a diminutive (meisje, etc) is always a "het".

And here you can listen to it: http://www.nederland.fm/

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https://www.duolingo.com/JaneEmily

Another good place to learn the structure of the Dutch language is http://dutchgrammar.com :) I am not using this site but it will be helpful for those who do not enjoy sitting reading and learning from a book.

But if the original poster does not mind books; I am learning Dutch through a combination of Dutch in 3 Months (it can come in ebook, paperback separately as well as with discs), and recently I've started listening to Pimsleur's Dutch course (which you can find quite cheap on eBay for a second-hand copy instead of hundreds of pounds/dollars to get it through their site). So the book provides me with the grammar and drills I need to practise word order, vocabulary learned etc and then Pimsleur helps me learn how to converse without sounding too robotic. Then I put everything I learn into practise sessions on the Duolingo tree - which is helpful as currently in my book I'm on Questions (Section 19, Week 3) and on Duolingo I've just got to 'Vragen' skill - and I write down notes from the "textbook" to help me remember things more, and that way I can easily revise it if I've forgotten a certain rule. I also have my Dutch boyfriend helping me learn through everything too, as a 'live pronunciation guide'.

As well as those things, every new word I come across (even if the word is the same as in English) I write it down into my notebook and an excel file (just to have a back up).

By this method, I have already learnt over 500 words in a month (I'm quick to understand concepts and apply them), but generally I do take it slow - even though the book I'm using is titled 3 months, I am not taking it too fast but at the pace I feel is comfortable.

Hope that helps.

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Just realised in your tinyurl link you included a link to Dutch Grammar anyway @Montalbano (at the time I couldn't access the link as was on safari on my iPhone on 3g) so ignore my first paragraph ;)

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Oh yes It does help. Thanks !

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Another good resource btw: http://www.unilang.org/course.php?res=62

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https://www.duolingo.com/Trizie
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thanks for the links:-)

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You're welcome :)

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This is great. The above two rules for 'de' and 'het' always work and are easy to apply, so it is never necessary to miss those, but they don't of course cover all situations.

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https://www.duolingo.com/graz68

Se hai bisogno di aiuto fammi sapere,io sono anche olandese

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Oh Man, we are exactly on the same situation, like the type what you hear" are gifts for me (on the other hand no exercises for listening...), when I don't have a lot of time I just do some exercises of something that I need to review, etc... Nice to know that I'm not the only one :) Thanks for the tip with Het and de, it's always a challenge !

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Although I am generally a grammar nut, and learning the gender of words straight away when you learn the word does make life easier, I wouldn't stress too much with the de and het thing. After all, compared to many other languages (German springs to mind...), the gender plays a smaller role, and people will understand you even if you use the wrong gender.

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Dank U Yep, Indeed, that's a good idea: Learn the word AND the gender at the same. It might help ! :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/Ikke1998

I'm dutch, If you have a question, you can ask me!

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Qaa2 is right, it is quite hard to do it in reverse. But don't let this discourage you. Go slow and you should have no problems.

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:D

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I'm doing it that way (learning dutch from the reverse) too and I enjoyed all comments very much. Thanks to all of you. Dank je wel.

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Learning Dutch should be fun, so just try to follow dutch television and act like a detective. http://www.npo.nl/ Try to understand the dutch, laughing is allowed. :) enjoy

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