esperanto aŭskultante ekzercojn/esperanto listening exercises
Mi rigardas programon, kiu prezentas parolantan esperantan vorton al studento kaj poste havas la studentan tipon la vorton reen.
Mi akiris tra la esperanta arbo, sed miaj aŭskultaj kapabloj estas malantaŭ miaj legaj kapabloj.
I'm looking a program that presents a spoken esperanto word to a student and then has the student type the word back.
I've gotten through the esperanto tree, but my listening skills are way behind my reading skills.
This is pretty good! I just did about 50 words. The vocabulary choice sometimes seems a bit odd, but I don't have any real concerns about the pronunciation or linguistic content. (Minor gripe on "piediri" but I was unable to figure out how to replay the word to verify my concern.)
Edit: Aaah, I see I needed to "change game" to the one with the 4 dots to get the replay button. A few minor gripes related to what I said above, but not bad.
The big problem I see with the game: they don't really give you a score on how you are doing. I also didn't see a way to repeat stuff that you missed according to some schedule(which might be set by the student).
It is still useful. It could be a lot more with a few tiny changes.
I'd also like to see them just give folks to review the duolingo vocabularly as an option, since that is what a lot of us are learning as a first pass.
one can get a score in this game by looking at high scores. if you look at your score vs. how far you have gone you have some idea of your "hit" rate. I'd still like the option to focus on stuff I've previously missed and get some idea of recent hit rate without keeping my own records.
I had trouble using this program the first time I tried because of a technical problem. I tried again and I am glad I did. This is pretty close to what I had in mind. The one quibble: I wish they would display text after you answer. They have a version that displays the text before you answer.
One thing I liked about this: the game is language neutral. That means that someone who might not speak any major language could actually play the game. I'd like to see more such materials.
I think this is a decent companion to duolingo because this game forces one to listen. I'd like to see them include the entire duolingo vocabulary.
Randall, be sure to cultivate all four language skills. () As your teacher I hope you don't mind saying it here, my impression is that a good portion of the trouble you have with listening comes from the need to continue to develop and strengthen your skills in the basics of the language. You can't hear words you don't know (*) and I think if you want to become a better listener, you're going to have to get better at reading, writing, and speaking.
If all goes according to plan, I am going to be spending more time experimenting with other methods of teaching online beyond italki - including some which might fall into the category of "answer to your question here" - so let's be sure to keep in touch.
I've seen a few sites like the one you described but I'm not sure I recommend them. (I'll be spending more time evaluating them before I do.)
In the meanwhile, especially for you personally, I would encourage you to continue reading, writing, and reading out loud. This will help your listening more than anything else at this point. Your Esperanto is "understandable" but only when the context is already clear.
Some specific feedback:
Mi rigardas programon
- I am looking at a program.
Mi serĉas programon
- I am looking for a program.
Mi akiris tra la esperanta arbo,
- I acquired (something) through the Esperanto tree.
Mi sukcesis atingi la finon de la esperanta arbo.
- I have gotten through the Esperanto tree.
(*) Traditionally: reading, writing, speaking, and listening - although I'm convinced there's a lot of overlap, and that these can also be broken down in other ways.
(**) Actually you can, but the ability to do this follows from a good grounding in a language.
http://www.listeningpractice.org/start.php?lang=epo This is one example I have found
I hadn't heard of this site and my initial impression was that it looks pretty good. I played around with it for a little bit and I don't think I would recommend it as is.
- The first thing I notice is the heavy Spanish accent. Accents are not a huge problem, but while Spanish is often a good model for Esperanto vowels, it's not a good model for Esperanto consonants.
- It didn't take long to find some more glaring pronunciation issues - “devás” for “dévas”, for example.
- There are odd choices in some of the phrases in terms of grammar.
It makes me wonder if this is something which could be used as a basis for something better.