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the pronunciation of "regent" in the Dutch course

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As a language teacher I manage a number of classes. Throughout the Dutch course on here I've noticed a constantly recurring problem that might be considerable for those people who are studying the course without the benefit of a native speaker or someone who's knowledgeable about correct pronunciation. I'm referring to the pronunciation of the word "regent". As it is pronounced now (with emphasis on the second syllable and a short "e" as in the English "bed" for instance), it means, exactly as in English, the temporary replacement of a ruler when that ruler is too young, not the meteorological phenomenon it is supposed to mean. That should be pronounced more or less like "ray-gunt". This problem should be fixed as it provoke incorrect pronunciation in learners.

4 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/El2theK
El2theK
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It is text-to-speech and unfortunately we don't have any control over it. If we had, it would already have been sorted. File a bug report if you want, though generally it will take a while before it is fixed (if at all).

The issue with regent is also that the pronunciation is correct for the noun, just not for the verb. For most sentences there will be a comment with an explanation what the correct pronunciation is.

4 months ago

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Did you report it at the lesson? It must be changed there if there are two pronunciations depending on meaning. Pronunciations are difficult to change though. If you can get screenshots of the lessons in question, then you could create a bug report through the help button below. This may not be changed for quite a while, but at least they would have the information for when that is possible. Do you at least know the sentence or complete phrase? Do you mean "It is raining." ?

Here is an example sentence that you can report that other people are also complaining about: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4374343

4 months ago

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Hey miss/mister, as I don't study Dutch myself but teach it to my wife and help her along in the duolingo course, I haven't reported it in any particular lessons yet. I've enabled it for her in my Dutch class though and next time I'll be able to mention it when she hits the problem. She finished her practise for today. The problem appears in any sentence connected with "it's raining" (het regent).

4 months ago

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I am glad that she has you to help her with the pronunciation. I often recommend to people to use Forvo as an alternative for pronunciation: https://forvo.com/search/regent/nl/ Forvo uses live voice recordings.

This will require a programmer to set up something for words with more than one pronunciation.

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/3732990 Alphabet Pronunciation

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/25020107 Grammar Overview

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/3732467 Suggestions (Though this was originally posted when the course first came out, they may still be checking it.)

I am thinking that if they cannot have two pronunciations for the word that maybe they should choose the one for "raining" as it is used so much and the other pronunciation is for the English word for "regent". I don't know how easy that is to implement, but it might be easier than having two pronunciations for now. This may be one of the problems with computer generated pronunciations.

Here is a quick link to the Submit Bug Report page: https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/El2theK
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The topics you refer to won't be read by staff (the people that control the programming). Just by contributors and moderators.

Please refrain from highlighting this issue in a ton of places. This discussion will do. Or as you indicated, file a bug report.

4 months ago

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True, but a contributor could at least indicate it in the tips and notes with perhaps the link to Forvo.com. I do hope the programmers can fix this, but as you mentioned it could be quite a long time. I still think that the other pronunciation should be used because that is the version that is used more often. Also, a bug report from a moderator might get more attention to the matter, maybe not get it faster, but at least let them know this is really a legitimate problem that needs to be looked at when they can.

4 months ago