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Crowns messed up my progress

I was nearly through the German tree and then it switched to crowns. Now all of the lessons have a few crowns (less than I expected for most) and the lessons all reset to 0. Every lesson shows that I have started over at zero - it shows 0/2 complete or 0/3 complete (or whatever the number is) for ALL of the lessons I have completed.

April 5, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/randy519557

Ok - I clearly didn't understand the change. I have done one lesson again and I can now see how it is supposed to work. This will cause me to change my learning strategy for German. I was planning to complete the tree and then use the practice button over and over to keep the tree golden. - while moving on to other learning methods as the tree stayed golden.

Now I will have to see how I can use it - it really depends on the difficulty of the lessons at 4 and 5 crowns. They will need to have more than a repetition of the same stale sentences used at the lower crown levels.

April 5, 2018

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    So before the crown system you were going to keep your tree golden by repeating stale sentences over and over but now that there are crowns they need to have more? Of course I hear that they have added content along with the crown system so that should be good. I have only gotten one subject to crown level 5 so it's golden and at that point you have the option once again to do timed practice. Overall I like the crown system just fine. Is it better? In the aspect of keeping a tree golden I think it is better since keeping a tree golden often required repeating ad nauseam the beginner subjects while the subjects at the end of the tree might have only been done once. Now the number on the crown can better tell you where you've spent your time.

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/david_cieszyn

    Did all the language courses get new content, or only some? (I read about that only in the case of French)

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seattle_Scott

    They added a bunch of content to the Japanese too, and some more Spanish stories I think.

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/randy519557

    Yes - I was just planning to use DL to reinforce my vocabulary. Once it was no longer challenging then I would move on. Now this new system holds the promise of being more useful for longer but only if the lessons are increasingly more difficult.

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PeaceJoyPancakes

    These days in conjunction with Duolingo I'm using https://duome.eu/username/progress, which is an unofficial user-maintaned site showing all your skills and their strength. (Replace "username" in the link with your own username to see your own progress.)

    For French, I'm trying to keep everything at at least 75% strength as a baseline. For anything at 50% or lower, I do a session. Sessions accessed by clicking on the skill at duome.eu are lessons that contribute to your crown-level progress, so this way I get the best of both worlds.

    Then, as long as everything's at 75% or greater, I do lessons in the skills with the lowest crown levels, accessing them directly from Duolingo, which also has the effect of increasing their strength.

    I do at least an eighth of a level per skill at a time. Currently I'm working through all my level-2 skills, an eighth or so at a time, before going back through them again, so eight times through all of these skills will bump them up to level 3. (At lower levels it could be less, as there are fewer lessons, but this is what's currently working for French from crown level 2 to 3.)

    For now I find this method to be a good balance between spaced repetition and making progress through the crown levels.

    You can see my progress at https://duome.eu/PeaceJoyPancakes/progress.

    May 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seattle_Scott

    Welcome to the crown system. I've had mixed feelings about it, but I've had it for a week or so now, and after the initial shock, I'm OK with it. You don't need to have a golden tree, and you can still move on.

    I'm starting to go back through my trees (this happened to all four of my trees), and they may never be golden again, but I have a better idea of how much I've practiced each area, and generally areas with zero, or only 1 crown, I find that I forget things and get things wrong still, so it's a visual reminder of where I really stand on each section.

    The only issue I have is with the iOS app charging you gems if you lose health, and I used to regain health by redoing a section that was guilded, but now I have no golden sections to draw on.

    Overall though, it doesn't matter if your tree is golden or now, although it's oddly psychologically satisfying to have it that way.

    April 5, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pentaan

    The only issue I have is with the iOS app charging you gems if you lose health, and I used to regain health by redoing a section that was guilded, but now I have no golden sections to draw on.

    Workaround

    Switch to Duolingo's web version (www.duolingo.com) on your phone, because it .......

    • does not have the punishing "Health" system and gems

    • will work in the Chrome or Firefox browser on your phone or tablet, if you have rather good Wifi (or LTE/4G with an Internet bundle)

    • you can choose a good teaching method: mostly "typing each word" instead of mostly "clicking on predefined words"

    • If you are able to set your browser in "Desktop mode", then it has
      Grammar "Tips and notes" in many of the lessons that introdruce new grammar:
      .. Click on the light bulb next to the "Start" button
      .. picture: https://i.imgur.com/wWY1Fpf.png

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/royalt213

    I think the most annoying aspect of Duolingo is all of the added content you get from the web version that is absolutely missing from the Android app. It's really disappointing and has been for years.

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mugsoh

    "you can choose a good teaching method: mostly "typing each word" instead of mostly "clicking on predefined words"

    How exactly does one do this? I don't like having to click on the words when I'm on a PC. It's annoying and I don't feel like I'm learning anything.

    April 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PeaceJoyPancakes

    Click on "use keyboard" at the bottom of the page when you get a question that asks you to put the words in order.

    April 7, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/eineSchlange

    They said that the highest crown level they'll give when updating one's account is 3, as they don't feel like the old content is up to level 4 and 5. So if you have/had many on level 3 it's good.

    As for "0/3 completed"-thing, it just means that you haven't completed any skills for that particular level you're at. If you're at level 3 with 0/3 completed you haven't started from zero, in fact, you're starting at the highest possible level that the old update provided and now working on your way to level 4 and 5. When you reach level 4 it'll once again say that you've completed 0 skills (0/6 for instance). That, once again, refers to how many skills you've completed at the level you're at.

    April 6, 2018
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