https://www.duolingo.com/pedro216098

crown levels: a horrible invention

today i noticed that duolingo has introduced crown levels:( a horrible invention

highly demotivating!!! you have no overview about the modules you completed

please, change back to the 'gold' system

April 6, 2018

29 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Allicou

I am very disappointed and discouraged by crown levels. With the first update, I lost some levels and had to through them another time. And now, again and again. For Unit 1, it means "48 times" rehearsing the same basic words "a man" for example. It looks like a bad joke. Moreover, it is not possible anymore to have an overview of the unit (very useful to learn vocabulary, or to check a word we learnt) and to skip a lesson. I really don't like this new version. I just have the impression I make no progress and that I will need a hundred years to make some. Just discouraging.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/koho1234

I agree

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/rynsacc

I liked the strengthening system much better than the new system :(

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyKittle

I, for one, like the new system but I can certainly see the point of view of those of you who do not like it, especially if you happen to have a facility for learning languages. However, sadly there are those of us who are struggling and the new system forces us to not just glide over the information, but to really commit it to our memories, such as they are. I think that Duolingo should also offer the 'gold' system so that those people who prefer it can continue to benefit from the site. As Duolingo already has the program, it shouldn't be that difficult to do both, and in that way, we all can have a method that suits our level and needs.

I would like to make an addendum to my original note. After having used the new system for two days, I have to say that it is rather boring. I know, from my past experience, that behind those basic icons there are many different exercises. I don't understand why they are repeating the same extremely basic phrases over and over. As you work your way through to level 5, I believe that the phrases should be more and more difficult. I'm not learning as much as I did with the old system. Too bad.

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Jemima89703

Duolingo crown levels are very demotivating plus all my heard work has been deleted I am not happy and prefer the old system.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Asli112036

I am very unhappy and demotivated by this new update of duolingo. First of all, we received two major updates in 2-3 weeks where all our golden modules were cancelled. These are too close! I appreciated the first update and tried to regain my golden modules with a great effort. And as soon as I reached my previous state, i.e., 60% of the total modules, and was ready to proceed with the new modules, the crown update came and cancelled my golden modules once again!
One wonders what new things are introduced? That's another disappointment: 1) I need to repeat even the basics 4 times more to be golden again. If only i was so stupid! I find this insulting. 2) Besides it does not reflect my correct level in French. If I am not golden in the basics, why let me climb higher? So I question the validity of Duolingo assessment. I feel lost.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JanetCassi1

When I started French, I should have taken a test first but didn't. I actually know a lot of French, so being at basic levels is way too easy and boring. How can I take a placement test?

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/EvilGenius88

I'm not sure if this will work (especially with the new crown system) but it's a suggestion. You can erase your progress/language and start it again, perhaps?

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JanetCassi1

Worth a try. Thanks!

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/gatiquo

Now I see what people were complaining about. This crown system is very bad,

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/forrestivie

I AGREE!!!! It was so easy just to strengthen the topics if you were rusty and needed some revision - now you have to start all over again! Please bring back the gold/strengthening system!

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ofred19

You can still do this via the "practice/barbel" button.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Michal45058

'You can still do this via the "strengthen skills" button.'

I don't have 'strengthen skills' button (Web version). That's possibly because all my learning history was deleted. So unfortunately can cannot do this via 'strengthen skills' button, unless you go again through all the lessons which were deleted

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ofred19

Sorry, they changed the name post-Crowns change: it's now a blue button just below your daily goal window on the right: it has a barbel and "Practice" in white letters.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Michal45058

thanks, I might try it one day, though no rush on that as I'm still in the earlier part of the tree.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JanetCassi1

And what do people mean by a tree?

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/OrcaDuo

A 'tree" is the entirety of a Duolingo language course. For example: The Duolingo Irish tree starts with "Basics 1", and ends with "Business".

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/KieranISaKiwi

I know. The new system destroys everything of my progress. I had a 29 day streak, and on the day I updated it, my streak went to 0! And everything was so stupid, unusual, and dumb! PLease, revert to gold.

April 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Erhan.Kirbas

I support the development in general. What I meed back is the selection of lessons. I have to repead the lessons quite often to remember and this possipility is lost. I would appreciate a update.

April 17, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/mikki866847

I, too, need to to be able to repeat lessons.

April 20, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Shekina05

yes! bring back the gold system, it was so much better than this new crown system.(the crown system is the worst) i have been doing duo for 2 1/2 years, i do not, i repeat, do NOT like the crown system

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/travis.font

Agree!

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/DebraSolom1

As you can read in the negative comments above/below, folks are trying to find strategies for working around this new system. I can't believe that is what Duolingo would want, and I certainly can't believe that repeating beginning levels of language (The chocolate cream boils.) incessantly (48 times) helps anyone learn the language.

The crown system is a clear case of programmers wanting to programme driving the interface design and thus experience of the learner. Bass-ackwards, if you ask me.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Kyle.Webber

You don't HAVE to repeat anything if you don't want. Are people this dumb or does everyone on this site have OCD? You only have to get to crown 1 to move onto the next module for god sakes people.

May 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Asli112036

We do want to repeat the modules for practice; but with new set of exercises, if it will be called crown 2. Repetition of more-or-less the same set of exercises is not an update in this app. Could it be that you are not enough to see this?

May 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/DiconMontf

I was just getting to a solid gold tree, then these useless crowns came with no way out. I've just given up on Duolingo.

May 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Horseboss13

Crown level is so annoying

May 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/daKanga

As this discussion is still attracting interest of new people adding comment to this issue, I would like to point out another recently been posted an article that may interest people regarding [Our Crown Levels blog post is live!]https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/27967582).

Wishing everyone all the best with their language learning.

July 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Susannetann

There was a time when I had a lot of lessons complete for French, and all gold at that. I stopped playing for a while and now, with the crown system, so many of the lessons I did are level 0, 1, and 2. I have to take 5 tests of each lesson just to get them back to crown level 5, and all the tests are super repetitive. In the past, it would not have taken this many practices to get the lessons back to the highest gold level. It's very dissatisfying to see all the lessons at such low levels, but it would take so long to get them all to level 5 and it wouldn't even be fun nor would I learn anything because I actually know a good amount of French already from outside of Duolingo.

Please either make an easier way to level up lessons or allow users to switch back to the old system.

September 22, 2018
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