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Crown Levels

Now that Duolingo has introduced Crown Levels in their Spanish Lessons is there any way to get back to just using the older style of lessons

10 months ago

30 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Juan922528

I used to have my Spanish tree fully gold, with nearly the highest fluency rating the app allows. Now I have been demoted to talking about men and apples for hours on end. No more sophisticated exercises, but people are supposedly saying that I can work my way back up to get back to the exercises that were of appropriate difficulty? But they already were the appropriate difficulty, and now it's apple, boy, man, woman, over and over and over and over and over. I really hope they remove this horrible idea.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/y.ademas
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Exactly how I feel. I just spent an hour doing the "apple, boy, man, woman" thing to get all of my skills to level 3. It was a complete waste of time.
Tomorrow I will check out the difficulty level of achieving level 4 in a few exercises, but if it's as dreadfully repetitive and basic as it was today, I can see myself just moving on, and focusing on more advanced resources elsewhere. And I am not fluent yet, so I can certainly understand how boring it must get for someone more advanced than me. Too bad there's not a better system in place to properly assess your skill level and put you in a more appropriate level.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Logan_Alexis22
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Just get it to level 5 and that lesson will turn gold. I like this new method because it makes me work harder and practice more compared to how it was last time when I was just doing 1 random lesson to get it gold again and to collect the coins. Plus it actually helps me more in learning the grammar and fluency of it.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jeffey238812

Yes i for one like it to be a little repetitive. I feel like it gets into my long term memory that way. I've been getting each lesson to level 5 and ivfeel like I'm remembering everything very well. Also you can test to the next level if you absolutely can't take the lessons anymore. I did that when I was about halfway done on level 4 with the food lesson on french.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rebecca868200

same. i feel the same way...

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Logan_Alexis22
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Just get it to level 5 and that lesson will turn gold. I like this new method because it makes me work harder and practice more compared to how it was last time when I was just doing 1 random lesson to get it gold again and to collect the coins.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rebecca868200

i feel like its a lot more repetitive with the new update... and going up to level 5 isn't much harder in the top of the tree so it's boring to get to gold :(

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fashionsd

You can test out of each level, yes it is repetitive but much faster to get back to level 5!

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gatoblanco26

I am also frustrated by being put at level 3 on most of my golden Spanish tree and even a few level 2s on really basic things. I just went through 200 points of lessons on things I already knew well! The problem is not Duo trying a new system that will (hopefully) be more challenging. The problem is we can't get to the challenging stuff without wasting time on reviewing the simple stuff that we know. You need to have a way of testing out on a crown level! Or allow us to choose the level we want to work at...if it is too hard we can select a lower level. We are all self-motivated anyway...let us challenge ourselves with the higher levels without being forced to wade through the simple stuff.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Good Morning Sr. White Cat! My tree tells me I'm about the same, so a 24/25 level would appear to be consistent at least - - to be at level 3 in most or all of the new tree!

I was at the stage of thinking about trying the English from Spanish course for a bit of change, but I now have the new challenge of gettingthrough this newer system. OK, so I will be repeating a lot of what I've done before, but at my age, that can only be a help (I'm 76 years of age) - - each time I have re-done the tree I've learned and [more importantly] retained some more!

Es bueno que algunos de nosotros, como el nuevo sistema y continuará a aprender.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Darlene188494

It's nice to hear someone ALMOST as old as me (77) is learning Spanish too.!!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Mi amor Darlene! - - assuming you are female and I am male. :-)

Isn't it great that us oldies can still show the babes how to do it!

Take Care and ENJOY!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dkrobe
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Nice to see other learners of like vintage.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gatoblanco26

Yes I (Sra. White Cat : ) can always use repetition (I'm a senior citizen too) but level 3 seems really basic. I had been keeping my Spanish tree golden and I had also just completed the reverse tree (English for Spanish) speakers and was trying to get that tree golden when everything changed. I love Duolingo and I love the fact that it continues to try to improve and they have managed to remain optionally free. I wish I didn't have to go through so many lessons to get to the more challenging stuff but I am grateful to Duolingo every time I travel and can actually say simple things to the people I meet.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SamohtSMA
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The lessons are the same style or same kinds of problems, it’s just that there are so many more new ones and gradations in difficulty. The proficiency level is gone, replaced with 305 crowns (61 activities, 5 levels each ). I can see myself, a bit ocd, doing way more that 50xp per day. I will miss a total gold tree while working up the new tree chain.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rick91012
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So help me understand. I was 62% fluid under the old system, and now I’m at crown level 62. Can I just keep working my way through the tree until I have at least one crown in each skill set, thereby “completing” the tree in the older system? (I understand the limitations/false expectations that come with a complete tree, but it is nonetheless a goal to shoot for.)

And am I correct in assuming that working for more crowns in any set is just another way of practicing or strengthening that particular set? Are the crowns themselves simply meant to act as motivation to keep grinding on the basics?

I can actually see the motivation working both ways: finishing a tree relatively quickly can provide a certain level of satisfaction. But deeper practice anywhere in the crown level can appeal to those more interested in actually learning the new language.

And to be honest, even at 62 whatevers, I’m not quite sure which camp I fit in. But I’m having a blast either way!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/marilena810431
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I agree with Juan922528

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NoNoEsImposible

From the official Crowns FAQ:

Will we have the option to use the old system? We want to be super transparent here: Crowns will go out to everyone. This change is necessary to improve how we teach and add more difficult content for those who want it. The gains we’ve seen are incredible. We understand that some of you will miss or prefer the old system at first, but we’re optimistic you will adapt to love this system too :)

The old system had several years of improvements and iterations. That’s why we’re so excited that this new system is doing even better. Just imagine all we can accomplish from this new starting point!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheJuggler

If it ain't broke, don't fix it !!!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Nobody likes change - except a few of us. I like the Crowns so far, but I was ready to go back and redo my tree anyway, so I'm not bothered, and happy!

I'm shocked at just how bad I was in Basics and this was due to assuming I knew it all? Iinteresting in that I have 151 crowns already, which should perhaps equate to the halfway mark on the new tree with over 300 crowns available.

I think I'll have just as much fun and polish up my tree as I go on.

Wax on, wax off -z- as in the Karate Kid.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rand-Alfaris

I don't like the new format of Doulingo. It is inefficient and not suffecient. The reasons: 1. The first reason: There is no access to each lesson individually. For example: In the topic of "past tense" there are 20 lessons. in the old format I was able to pick what ever lesson I feel I need to repeat. But in this new format I can't do that, I can't even go back in the lesson that I finished and re-do it! 2. The second reason: it does not show the percentage of the progress. For example, in the old format, I was at 57% of my Spanish. Now it says: 97 crown level? what does 97 even mean?

What is the point of this new format? If the developers like this new format very much, why don't they at least give the students the option to use the old format for the reasons that I mentioned above?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Puedes agradar a algunas de las personas todo el tiempo, todo el pueblo parte del tiempo, pero nunca a toda la gente todo el tiempo!

I don't like that I can't look up new words BEFORE I start a lesson section, but that's not a big problem for me. So I still like the Crowns!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Constanza99442

The update is going to everyone, permanently, I think in a matter of a few weeks.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duolearn4321
10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexAustinKern

I realize you wrote this a month ago, but I thought I'd say I'm super frustrated by this too!

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Emily-OHara

Does anyone know the highest crown level on DL? I'm currently on 112 but that means nothing unless put in to context!

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hambones500
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With Spanish, there are currently 115 themes, each with 5 levels, making 575 crowns. Perhaps it's just me, but I only recently saw the key to test out of a level and crown-up when starting a lesson. So the endless, pointless, boy, cat, skirt, repetition has thankfully been removed. However, I think that keeping the old tree gold used to involve more complex Spanish than current level 5 - is that the case in anyone else's experience?

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mike209223

I’m at crown lever 213 and I have no idea what implies or signifies. Where does such information come from? And trees, what are trees?

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rick91012
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Crowns and levels are just a way to gauge your progress. The numbers themselves are meaningless..

A tree is the graphic you see as you scroll down. The more skills you develop, the closer you come to completing your tree...it’s another motivator.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gemma4367

i agree

3 months ago
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