https://www.duolingo.com/SvenskaElev

Not being able to see words for each lesson with crowns

This is another example of how an improvement is NOT an improvement, but taking a step backward.

I am have been keeping a list in a word doc of all the words I have learned for each lesson category for each language I am working on so I can get a word count. Now they have taken away the ability to see all the words for each lesson at once with the new crowns system. Why? Is that really necessary? How does that help anyone? This is really stupid. Why force everyone into this? I like options.

This is another good example of why I often question the intelligence of the people running Duolingo.

There should be a button I can click on so as to at least be able to review the words for the lesson, just like I can the lesson notes. Perhaps the words for a lesson category could be added to the same page as the lesson notes. Otherwise I don't have any problem with the crowns thing myself.

April 7, 2018

39 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Gwenyth57

I completely agree. I too like to keep a document of the words I have learned, and it is nice to go over them one by one.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Semeltin

Please consider checking out my thread/comment and upvoting it if you like it: "Suggestion: How everyone would love the Crowns :)" https://www.duolingo.com/comment/26860873

If the Duolingo staff sees it, maybe it will fix this problem. :)

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Hollie2237

That was one of the complaints I had in my post yesterday. I completely agree, without decay and knowing where words are, how are you supposed to practice efficiently?

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/applefoodie

Yep, I agree with you 200% on this. This has got to be the most annoying change with the crowns feature.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Tranklements

Fortunately, duolingo is a rather open platform so there are ways to do things...

Go to https://www.duolingo.eu/SvenskaElev/progress and click on a link to see the old view of the lessons complete with the words in the lesson. If you are not "SvenskaElev", you are going to be substituting your own user name instead.

Or open a lesson from the crowns view such as https://www.duolingo.com/skill/sv/Family/1 and then remove the slash and number such as "/1" at the end to give https://www.duolingo.com/skill/sv/Family.

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/PouriaP

It does not work for me. Have they removed it? Like they're deliberately preventing people from seeing a simple list of words? Interesting.

November 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/comradezack

It seems to me they've removed it for good, I know this trick with the URL used to work the last time I used DL but now I can't get to the old lessons view which is rather annoying. Supposedly going to Tinycards and finding the section for the language will allow you to see a list of words per skill, however I'm finding rather that it shows you a list of SOME of those words, not all of them. This is quite unfortunate to have to do this but I'm going to be compiling a list of words for each skill in Russian as I reach it so that I can make an Anki deck for each one. When I get through the whole tree I suppose I'll upload the decks to AnkiWeb so anyone can use them and freely view the words contained in them.

EDIT: Someone's already done the work for me it seems. Memrise has courses for some if not all of the Duolingo target languages with the original wordlists. For instance: https://www.memrise.com/course/378212/duolingo-russian-full-audio/2/

November 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/BonaX5
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I know of a way that still works, but I don't think the majority of people have the means to use it. Basicaly, if you happen to have a Windows Phone instal the Duolingo app, it was not updated so it still shows everything in the old system. For once I'm actually happy that app developers lack in supporting their apps on Windows Phone.

November 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SvenskaElev

Amazing! I am impressed! There is a solution! This is really great! This does change things for me. Tusen Takk!

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/22879

Dear Tranklements. Even though I managed to see again all the lessons shown like they used to be in the previous version, it still doesn't take me to the lesson I want. If I have completed, let's say, lesson 4/9 and I click lesson 1/9, Duolingo still takes me to 5/9. Do you know if this can be fixed or the person I could ask?

April 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/applefoodie

Wow! Removing the slash does work! Thank you so much!!

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/cameron142964

I agree i hate the new system. I preferred having lessons split into 3 parts with the strengthen option for weak words. And the crowns are just a bad idea.

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/BonaX5
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I agree. Not so much because of the hability of seeing the words, but because I had the method of doing each small lesson from each module at least twice before moving on to next one and sometimes even practiced them individually and now that isn't possible. It now forces us to go to the next one without considering that we might not have yet "absorved" all the information from the previous lesson.

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/applefoodie

Exactly. I do the same thing--I review some modules, especially if they come with a lot of new vocab words, or words that I just can't remember for some reason. For modules where I already know most or all of the words, sure there's no need to repeat. But sometimes a module will come up with 5-6 new words, and it'll take a few repeats for them to really stick. And you're right, I hate being forced to move on without feeling like I've mastered the previous module. One thing I've tried is to simply X out of the module before I'm done--of course then you don't get XP for completing the lesson, but at this point, I guess it's more important for me to learn than it is for me to be forced to go above my comfort zone.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/WalterTheves

I completely agree with you. I do the exact same thing you do, taking notes writing down all the words and phrases that I learn on each lesson. It is bad now that on each lesson I am going to take, I do not know the words I will be learning. Glad to see I am not the only one worried about it. Please Duolingo, fix that.

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulBadau

I had absolutely no idea they took off the vocabulary list when they updated to crowns. I always studied those before starting the lesson. Thank you for putting that out there for me and others.

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Sanctacaris_unc.

Second the motion to reintroduce some display of the words for each lesson, possibly alongside the crowns, which are per se a good thing!

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Sassicat

I agree ... it's seems like a change for the sake of change. I rarely visit Duolingo since they got rid of the Immersion feature. I learnt more from immersion (learning Italian), than I did from the Duolingo courses. I've decided to start learning Swedish - 3 days ago - and already its changed ... EDITED ...Tranklements ...thank this works .... although I wonder why DL can't include the words with the list of tips and notes, when you click on the light bulb?

April 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Trilby16

Has any website redesign EVER been an improvement? If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/kasia_wu

I agree with you! With each new lesson I liked to look at words first and 'get use to' them before I start learning. Now it's a surprise when you see a new word and you cannot even estimate how many words you learn in each class...

DUOLINGO PLEASE BRING BACK THE WORDS LIST!

April 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/johninbigd

I was thinking about this last night and I think I realized what they want us to do. I originally saw TinyCards as just a nice thing to have, but separate from Duolingo. But now I see that it is critical. I'm beginning to think that the best approach for me is that for any new lesson, I should learn the words first on TinyCards, then do the lesson in Duolingo, then use TinyCards as the regular word refresher. Perhaps Duolingo should just integrate them more fully since it looks like they really want us to use TinyCards now.

April 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Trilby16

Tinycards is essential! Let's just pray that they don't mess it up next...

May 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/kasia_wu

Oh.. yes... I think you are right, but still TinyCards should be an option if you want to practice and repeat vocabulary. I do that when I don't have much time but still want to strengthen new words or go back to particular lesson. Usually I prefer to go through a full class where I can see how to use these words in sentences.

I agree, Tiny cards could stand next to podcasts and stories in Duolingo and everybody would be happy.

April 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Semeltin

Here's the solution to your problem:

piguy3 posted this in https://www.duolingo.com/comment/26854922:

“To see the words introduced in a skill click the "Start" button for it; then delete the number at the end of the URL and hit "Enter".”

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SvenskaElev

That actually works, tack så mycket för förslaget!

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/applefoodie

Amen! This is the SINGLE most annoying thing about the new crowns feature. I like to create vocabulary lists for myself, or create flash cards, and it's now impossible to do that without seeing the vocabulary lists. Related to that, it's now no longer possible repeat the same lessons over and over--when you try to re-enter a particular skill, it'll automatically move you up to the next lesson, and it's easy to forget the vocabulary that you had previously learned, since there's no way to review, and worse, without a word list, you don't even know what you forgot.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Its-Me-Me-Me

Agreed, looking at the vocabulary lists helps me split up the lessons and also encourages me to research more examples of how to use newly introduced words.

Thank you to those who posted a work around. I am still not impressed with the crowns update and it seems a change for the worse when I have to find ways to circumvent the updated design.

April 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/johninbigd

This is very frustrating! I just did the Swedish lesson on clothing. How am I supposed to know these words? I don't have a reference list to look at before I'm asked question about them. I don't get it. I do not like this new approach. I see no benefits and several negatives. Honestly, has anyone noticed a single real benefit?

April 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Trilby16

This is even worse than I thought. I didn't feel like I could deal with this massive change during my work week and decided to try and face it on the weekend. It is not going well....

Am I seeing this correctly? You cannot do individual parts of a skill? What the what?!!! You cannot choose which lessons to work on? Why are there no individual LESSONS anymore? Are you joking? Is this a joke?

I can't do this awful new website. It's javkla skit! I am heartbroken.

April 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Trilby16

Yeah, it really blows now, not seeing the lessons broken up by sets of words.

Today I finally made myself do some work in the new --what's the opposite of "improved?"-- Crowns system. As usual, I learned new vocabulary with Tinycards, then came over to Duo to tackle the corresponding lesson. Now it's just one big lesson. Present tense verbs #3 has 69 words in it. In the old Duo this would have been broken up into maybe 7 parts with the words clearly listed for each part. And Duo did away with that. I would love to know why!

Duo? Paid shills? Can anyone explain this to me, please? Specifically I want to know how this is an improvement.

May 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/DaffodiI

I completely agree too! I too like to keep a document of the words I learn. Hopefully, Duolingo will make this change. Until then, I advise you to write down any new words you learn and their translation so you won't forget them. Good Luck!

April 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Sassicat

qbeast ... I had forgotten about tiny cards ... a real help ... tack så mycket!

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Trilby16

Wouldn't be so refreshing if --for once-- a website with a problematic (and unloved) redesign just said "Sorry folks. We messed up. We threw out the baby with the bathwater. You make very good points which we didn't consider in messing up a great website. So we're turning back the clock.. We're giving you your baby back!"

April 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/PouriaP

There is no decay. And there is no list of words. Then how am I supposed to know if I know all the words in a lesson? And TinyCards is not updated with the new Duolingo lessons either. The slash thing doesn't work either. Duolingo why won't you give us a simple words list for each lesson? How are we supposed to know if we already know the words in a lesson? This is specially important when people come back after a long time and want to only practice the words they've forgotten.

November 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Eng_abdrhmanali

Hi, you have to leave this application it's too stupid just try to use the Busuu application, it's wonderful.

April 17, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Trilby16

Just looked-- There's no Swedish there. :-(

May 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/maria.lepe

DUOLINGO PLEASE BRING BACK THE WORDS LIST!!!

June 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/thequinneffect

I found a workaround. Make an account on Duolingo for schools and then create a class as a teacher for your desired language. It then lists all the lessons and the words for each lesson.

January 8, 2019
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