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Thank you Duolingo for creating the Crown system.

I just began using the Crown system yesterday and I noticed an improvement in my Spanish right away. I had struggled with some of the verbs, especially the future and past tense, and automatically it just snapped in place today and I couldn't believe I had been struggling all this time when it seemed so simple. The crown system really has worked for me. Has anybody noticed the same thing?

4 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Have a lingot each - just for being so positive! I too think it will help retaining the knowledge learned.

www.paseoatraves.wordpress.com - stroll through Spanish with Mel - my silly blog pages :-)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tony995332

I like your blog. it is so nice to read about snow. I haven't seen any in 18 years.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Why, Thankyou Tony! If I could I would send you some snow ;-) unfortunately it doesn't travel well!

We have seen snow in Spain, my wife and I used to have a caravan and we used to go to Spain for around six months every year.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pilgrim2k
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I have a question for all who posted that this system is great. Are we looking at the same Crowns System? Because if we are then please tell me what i'm missing. I have completed my tree 10 times and I have been keeping my tree Gold. i'm on a 1610 streak and all this to me is just redundant and boring. I feel like I've started over. If I never see, I eat apples, again it will be too soon. Tell me what i'm missing, because I really loved Duo lingo the other way and looked forward to doing it and I don't want to lose that desire, but truthfully it's fading fast in just two days. Help me understand what i'm missing. thanks.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Decktor
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You're missing the fact you don't have to make all the skills golden one by one, do a few lessons here, a few there and keep in mind level 3 is at least as good as golden in the old system. Just because it's not gold doesn't mean you have to repeat it to death.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

Come on Pilgrim! have a more open mind - - the new system will grow on you if you work at it - - you've been jolted out of your comfort zone, and like me - - it will take more than two days to get used to it all. Decktor's reply says the rest of my thoughts - - there seems to be new material in every section at every level. Cheer up and have a Lingot from me to help you back on track!

Cuidarse y seguir aprendiendo - - soy 76 años y sigue tratando de aprender!

Take care of yourself and keep on learning - - I'm 76 years old and still trying to learn!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kazmax1

Pilgrim2k, you took the words out of my mouth! I'm in the same situation and I've never felt so demotivated. I'm thinking of giving up on DL. I would have thought that it could have been set up in two sections, one for those who haven't reached the Intermediate level and one for those of us who have. That way we wouldn't have to go over all these extremely tedious lessons. However, after reading Decktor and all the raves, I've decided to keep going for a while longer and see if I start to feel differently about it. I do sincerely hope so!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pilgrim2k
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Kazmax1 yes i'm frustrated with this system but yesterday I too decided to stick with it for a while, but now when i do lessons on my moble apps, if i stop and then go back and start up again all my progress is erased and i have to redo everything. this morning i was traveling and got to a place where i could do several lessons. then when i came back to do some more the program said that i hadn't done any. I had completed 9/15 lessons and when i started again an hour later it said 0/15. also the progress that i make on my moble app doesn't reflect to my computer when i get home and log on. I have checked with my daughter and Granddaughter to see if they are having the same problem and they are. So this is a program problem not my problem. I will be in Spain for 2 months and have always used my iPad to do duo lingo but if it doesn't update to the program then i'll not only lose progress but the streak will be gone as well. I am hoping that this gets fixed because i don't want to discontinue duo lingo but if my progress keeps getting erased and i lose my streak i'll find something else to go to.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kazmax1

How infuriating! I wonder if the DL people read these comments (I know they don't, normally) and will be able to correct the problem you're having. I really don't understand this "levelling up" system. Just when I got up to Level 9 on the first tab and thought I'd finally be able to stop with the damned apples and go on to the second tab, it changed to show 15 levels instead of 9! I feel I'm not learning anything at all. I do wish there were some place where one could contact the DL people! Do you happen to know if there is anywhere where this system is explained?

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pilgrim2k
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I don't know if they read or address anything. I've over the years found little errors in a section and I've reported it and yet when I go back and redo a section months later the same error is still there. I finally got where I just knew that it was wrong and didn't bother to report it again. I I did see a discussion group from Duo that said Crowns FAQ. but it really didn't address any of the issues that we are having.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kazmax1

I have to say that, recently, I've been receiving many emails from DL saying that various errors I had reported have now been accepted. So I was beginning to think that maybe they have taken on more people to deal with these reports. Perhaps someone is now reading the discussions and will get back to us and explain how the whole thing is supposed to work. And, hopefully, help with your problem with your work disappearing. (I'm a born optimist!)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Decktor
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I had the same problem until I deleted all the app data on my phone, it seems to have been connected to the fact I had the lessons stored offline.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andresb_UY
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Pilgrim2k (good nick ;)) I think if i were you i would be loving crowns, i mean, you made 180.000 exp only in one language during the last 5 years. Yes, it is a remix. No, it has no meaning beyond keeping people consuming ads.

For you and total beginners is ideal, the problem is for us, right in the middle.

You can use android version 3.60 to keep averything as it used to.

PS: Did you think starting english from spanish? or even another language from spanish? It really helps.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BradR11
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Yes, I noticed the same thing. I think it has something to do with the way we learn. Some people are more auditory or visual or whatever. Maybe some left brain, right brain metric. I seem to do better with this new format.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/maurac73

Love it. It is very motivating and way more interesting.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/t0906239.
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Me encanta el nuevo sistema de crown, motiva mucho más y es más exigente. Además te informa qué secciones tienes que estudiar más porque tienes una corona inferior. Gracias Duolingo por mejorar el sistema.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

t0906239 Excellent reply, and in Spanish as well! It's good some of us like the new system and will continue to learn

Excelente respuesta, y también en español! Es bueno que algunos de nosotros, como el nuevo sistema y continuará a aprender.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/binker52

Yes, I agree! Great comments!!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TijmenvanD

What are you talking about, how do you attribute an improvement in your language mastery to the crown system? It is just a different way of tracking progress, not a new learning tool.

It is dumb that this system has no decay of skills, no fluency rate that goes down when you practice little. Learning a language is all about spaced repetition, now there is no way to tell what you should refresh.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mel211619

TijmenvanD, when you were at school, was there a course you took that you couldn't get good results with?

And then a new teacher came along for that same course, and suddenly your grades were a load better?

Just because you liked that teacher and the way they taught the same subject, you started to enjoy the subject and got the grades.

Some folks will like the Crowns, some won't!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andresb_UY
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but duo is not a person it is just a system that can be easily improved to like everyone as usual

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TijmenvanD

The Crowns system is something like my school shifted from report cards to stickers, might motivate certain people more or less, it does not radically change teaching whatsoever.

Personally the form in which my progress is reported is irrelevant, so I would not be bothered by the Crowns if it did not imply a removal of critical information. Without decaying skills or a decaying fluency percentage, there is no way of telling me that I need to repeat previously practiced subjects. Spaced repetition is so important, I can't believe duolingo chucks it out of the window like this.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/binker52

In my opinion, it has definitely helped me because now I can see at a glance where I need improvement and more repetition. It helped me improve my Spanish and I am using Duolingo a lot more. On the leaderboard, I went from last place to first place, not because I was trying to compete with anybody, but because I am trying to compete with myself and keep learning Spanish until I am fluent. The more I learn, the more I want to learn. However, everybody learns differently. If you are disappointed in the system, then complain to Duolingo. But for me and many others, we like the new Crown system!!!

4 months ago