WHY would you remove the option to test out of a topic?!
I already speak a good amount of a number of different languages. I like to test out of certain topics and depending on how well I do during the test, I go back and practice. With the update, the possibility to test out has been removed. Whoever may this decision should be fired immediately! Now, regardless of my knowledge, I have to do every single lesson in every single topic. I fully support the possibility of going more in depth and learning more (who wouldn't?), but there needs to also be the possibility to test out. Basically, you're asking me to find a different learning platform. Thanks a lot.
Note: in case I'm just thick and there is a way to test out, someone please let me know and ignore my rant.
A shame, isn't it?
Everyone (including me) has been talking about how wonderful the whole new crowns system and that the beauty of it is that you are able to choose to explore a skill in depth or just skim over the basics, and still be able to progress down the tree—this thus making it accessible to those who just want to lightly go over a language already learned, or those who want to really memorise.
As I wrote this, I thought I was seeing two different parties of people pleased—and then I realised I was looking at two sides of the same coin—the coin for beginners.
Now, Duolingo has no place for near-fluent or at least intermediate people who want to use Duo as a motivational supplement for whatever other resources they have for the language (and, assuming we're talking about intermediate to near-fluent people, it is almost guaranteed that they will have [had] other resources), and it is quite frankly, a pain in the neck.
It is extremely disappointing.
Perhaps Duo will explore the possibility of bringing 'testing out' (of each individual skills) back, perhaps in a better, more efficient way, but both of our parties, users and creators, have yet to find out what the method is.
As of now (at least for my tree), you can still take tree shortcuts, which is good, but again, only good for beginners, not people who have already done the lessons. There would be no tree shortcuts in that regard.
Who knows? Duolingo could end up pleasing the more advanced users again—perhaps at the expense of another party, but hey—that's just how the world works.
I'm really sorry, and I do empathise strongly with you.
Nevertheless, I am taking a fancy to the new system, and I hope you will, too.
Best of luck!
They realize this is a shortcoming, and they've said they're working on it, so yay! for that. I have a finished Spanish tree that I'd like to be able to test out of.
Can I test out of Levels? It takes a really long time to get to Level 5.
Not currently, but you don’t have to get to Level 5 right away! We in fact recommend you don’t get to Level 5 all in one go.
We are considering options for users to prove their existing knowledge on skills so they can be placed at the right difficulty from the start. We also want to make it more satisfying to complete each level (and not necessarily get all the way to Level 5).
Source: Crowns FAQ (https://www.duolingo.com/comment/26739837)
Thank you for the information, but I have to disagree with the idea that this will make it "more satisfying to complete each level." And, honestly, I don't care about the level number. I just want to get to the topics that are both of interest and more challenging to me. I see absolutely no logic in removing the test out option.
I took a break from duolingo and returned to see the 'test out' feature was gone. I use duolingo to refresh spanish and to keep motivated (reading a little bit of spanish each day) as I'm not a beginner, I'm intermediate. Duolingo doesn't have a 'test' feature to see how fluent you are in the language after you've already started so I have to go through each section individually. Now the test out feature is removed forcing me to go through each level to be allowed to move on; this takes up a LOT of time that I've already put in to learning the language using a variety of tools not limited to duolingo. This makes Duolingo a cumbersome option to use right now. I do hope they fix it so I can start using the app again.
I much prefer to use Duolingo on my phone as I can practice anywhere, i.e. on planes and in the airport, in the car etc.. However, since I updated the phone app yesterday the "test out" option has gone. This is frustrating as I am levels ahead in some cases. I am forced to use my laptop (which I don't like nearly as much) because I haven't updated Duolingo on it yet. Please bring back the "test out" option. Frustrated as I wish I hadn't updated.
- The iOS App has only shortcuts in skills in "crown level" 0
- The Android App and "www.duolingo.com in the browser of your phone, tablet or PC" have shortcuts in "crown level" 0-4.
Workaround for iOS devices
Use www.duolingo.com in the Google Chrome or Firefox browser on your device.
For the best typing experience:
- set the browser to mobile mode
- use the phone in portrait mode
and also enjoy .....
the grammar "Tips and notes" in some of the skills
(tap the "lightbulb" button in the "lessons" pop-up)
the very useful Sentence Discussions
The Android App also has the sentence discussions)
Yep - this is how I feel! Recently updated the app and now I am repeating ‘the boy eats the apple’ when I have previously graduated from the course and am fairly fluent in the language. Big. Waste. Of. Time.
I have the crowns system and still have checkpoints/the option to test out of multiple skills. Is this not the case for everyone?
He probably already has a finished tree. This means that the checkpoints register as 'passed'—and even if he had the said shortcuts, he could only test out of one crown level, and then he would have to the rest of the crown levels 'by hand,' so to speak.
I have a couple of finished trees, but I'm currently towards the end of my Portuguese tree (a language in which I am already near fluent) and when I click on the next topic, I only get the option to "start". If I click on "start," I have no option to test out of the lesson or topic.