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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/orangekid3

Hearing Klingon?

I wanted to learn Klingon when it was coming out in Beta... in August 2016. Then they bumped it. Just before it was released they bumped it again. Finaly I just decided to give up. Then they released it.

But there seems to be a problem. There is no button to hear the words in Klingon. When I started learning Spanish and German, I knew what they sounded like, but I have almost never heard Klingon spoken. To me, all it looks like a bunch of random letters if I don't know what it sounds like. Will there be a button for hearing the words? I know it's still in Beta, but that seems like an important part from the start.

April 7, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

As you say, the Klingon course has been a long time coming, and the release date has been pushed forward several times.

In the end, it was decided to release the course even without audio and with some bugs related to capitalisation and apostrophes remaining, rather than delay even further.

I wonder, sometimes, whether it might not have been better to delay even further, until sound could be integrated into the course -- many people have commented on the lack of audio, and it might well help learners distinguish better between I and l (capital-i and small-L) if they could hear the words spoken.

But now it's out, and without audio.

If you prefer audio, it might be better for you to wait until it has been added. I don't have a timeline for that, I'm afraid, much as I didn't know when the course would be released to beta until shortly before that happened.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Badwolf59

What would be the process for adding audio to the Klingon course? Do you need volunteer Klingon speakers to record words and phrases? (and if so, can I help? :) )


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

I don't know the nuts and bolts of how it works from the engineering perspective, I'm afraid.

I know that some courses have individual recordings for sentences (e.g. Esperanto and Irish) while others have text-to-speech engines which can pronounce any sentence you feed them (most of Duo's courses).

There is at least one text-to-speech engine for Klingon, by the person who brought us the excellent app boQwI'; I imagine the best bet would be to wire that up to Duolingo somehow.

But I'm afraid I have no idea how much work it would take to get Duolingo and that TTS to speak to each other. Nor what the process would look like if we did go the "separate audio for each sentence" route.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidTrimb3

I, for one, would gladly lend my voice should it come to individual recordings of sentences (which sounds to me like the best idea).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael.Lubetsky

When you say “best idea”, David, do you mean (a) using a voice model rather than TTS or (b) using your voice over that of anyone else? :-)

The voice-model for the Esperanto Duolingo course (Francis Soghomonian) has become quite the celebrity in the Esperanto community (see https://www.duolingo.com/comment/8859682 ).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidTrimb3

There's celebrity involved? Sign me up!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Giovanni0604

I don't think it's the type of language they can really find native speakers to speak for.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidTrimb3

You don't need native speakers; you only need speakers who know how to pronounce it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GorkSkoal

For what it's worth one of the club's i'm in was talking about that. KLI has (had?) quite a few words spoken. I only know that because I subscribe to a twitter Klingon Word O The Day feed that links to them. For hearing it their's a few dated starter guides: Conversational Klingon (for example). Look up KlingonStyle on youtube, while a funny riff it's all in Klingon, their's a few other songs on their as well 'So you can get started talking right away' . Hope that helps you. I do agree it'd be fantastic to have it one place. LOL yeah it's a weird style that may have started as a just random cool alian sounds many years ago for the movies and TV shows.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gondrembor

Audio will only be added to the lessons if there is sufficient interest in the course: even then it would take quite a lot of time and resources.

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