https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ahbabur

When will Japanese course be stable?

The Japanese course is still in beta so, when can I expect it to be stable ver.?

April 9, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Swisidniak

I'd like to know the same. Specifically I'd just like all the bugs to be fixed. It seems every time I find an error and go into a discussion for a question there are bugs that have been reported since it was released nine months ago and just never fixed. Like questions that have typos in their required answer, or where the word bank is missing words the corrected answer says you're required to have.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

or where the word bank is missing words the corrected answer says you're required to have.

Unfortunately, the system that chooses which corrected answer to show you seems to not be connected to the system that shows you the boxes. Invariably, the word boxes allow you to construct a valid answer. It just might not be the one that it shows you after you don't manage to.

This issue would require a programming fix. I wouldn't expect one soon :(

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Swisidniak

Yeah, and I've had a question before where I seriously just copy-pasted the answer that the correction told me I should give and it STILL marked it as wrong, which is just a little ridiculous because the corrections and the acceptable answers should be both drawing from the same list, shouldn't they? It's really odd.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

There is a bug that sometimes crops up where an answer that is in the system is rejected for some reason. A bug report with screenshot can help.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DestinyCall

There is no firm deadline at this time, to the best of my knowledge.

But I think it is safe to say it is going to be a while.

For now, the course is functional, but not fully fleshed out. I strongly recommend using other resources beyond DuoLingo, especially if you are brand new to Japanese.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ahbabur

Do you have any other good resources?

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Silvia511672

There's an app called Lingodeer that looks pretty good!

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DestinyCall

For someone brand new to Japanese, I would also recommend starting with LingoDeer, rather than DuoLingo. That app does a great job of giving you a nice foundation of knowledge and building on new concepts slowly. It also has a much higher focus on grammar and sentence structure which is one of the things that English speakers frequently struggle with when learning Japanese.

I would also recommend some kind of kanji-focused resource to be used along side whatever other resources you end up using. Unlike hiragana and katakana, you will likely be learning new kanji for YEARS. There are just that many of them. The more you put it off, the more you will need to learn later on, if you ever want to be able to read native Japanese fluently. For kanji, I would recommend a site like WaniKani or Kanshudo. Or there are various books like Remembering the Kanji. Or flashcard sets on Tiny Cards or Anki. Use whatever method works best for you, but get started with it as soon as you can. DuoLingo only introduces a very limited selection of kanji in its course and also uses hiragana characters in place of many kanji characters. This is common in many beginner Japanese resources to make learning common words easier, so don't be surprised if you encounter a word that you learned in hiragana, but now you see it written using kanji or kanji+hiragana.

If you are looking for audio resources, I would recommend checking out JapanesePod101. They have a bunch of podcasts available that teach Japanese from beginner to advanced. You can also find a lot of audio material on YouTube, although the quality varies.

April 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seattle_Scott

It's been a lengthy beta, but I do see they added a lot with the crown system. There's a lot more hiragana practice at the beginning, which should be helpful for people. Still working through the new crown tree, but yes, there are still a lot of errors. Some of those errors seem to be related to the fact that they can't figure out how to make the speech to text work with different pronunciations of the same word, like 中 (なか and ちゅう) and many others like that.

April 10, 2018
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