https://www.duolingo.com/Caleb596944

Love the Crowns!

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I absolutely love Duolingo's new crown system. I was getting bored with Duolingo because I had already mastered my tree and couldn't get anything more difficult to practice, plus I was losing motivation. After Duolingo added this update, I am motivated to get all skills to Level 5. I disagree on what others say about them wanting their tree to be gold again. I think that now a gold tree is a huge achievement that takes massive amounts of effort and dedication, whereas before it was relatively easy to get and not as rewarding as it is now.

Thanks for this update Duolingo!

10 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/PrussianPidgeon

A civil war is brewing between the Pro Update v Anti Update, let the battle commence!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane
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I am surprised you could get bored with the old system, there were so many different ways of practicing, which have now been removed.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StephenSla7

I agree, I used the "strengthen" button on the tabs quite often, now it seems to be gone. I also liked to write my answers, now I click the choice of words. That seems too easy.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlastairRae

In the web browser there should be a "use keyboard" grey button at the bottom. It toggles between that and "word bank" aka fridge magnets.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StephenSla7

Thank you. I did it and it makes me think more.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

I'm pretty sure I could make some correct sentences with Word Bank in languages I haven't even studied.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane
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You can use the 'practice' button to strengthen but it is not connected to the tree as it used to be so only gives you extra XP but no progress indicated as it used to

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane
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And you can't 'strengthen' on any individual lesson

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

A HUGE negative.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TinyKitties
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I think that it works just like it used to, only strengthening the things we have already learned.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eden-Joy
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I agree! And I am glad to see some positive posts on here! ; )

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eden-Joy
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I am a Toby Mac fan to!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anna606737

Me too!!!!! Also you are learning a lot of languages, that's cool.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gryphowl
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Yeah, i love it too and very well said.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EricManDude

Caleb596944, I want to love the new system but I don't quite understand it. So, is the goal to get to Crown 5?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RyanRiverside

When you reach Crown 5 in a skill, it turns golden and is added to Timed Practice! :)

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Caleb596944
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Yes, doing that will make the skill golden!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Evie5024

Thanks for asking this. I was confused too.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlastairRae

I haven't figured out crowns yet. Before I used to alternate the next new lesson with a practice. The latter gradually turned my tree gold. Now I don't know what the best approach should be since practice no longer links to progress.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Caleb596944
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What I would do is to strengthen the skills you might feel weak on by leveling them up to higher levels. Doing so will make the skills harder. Once a skill reaches Level 5 it turns gold!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

If only that were true! In Swedish, at least, the levels don't get any harder, it's just repetitive.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EdouardC2020
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Yeah, you're right. I don't understand why so much hate to this new update. People forget that learning languages is the main reason to stay here. Just keep learning :)

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

Is everyone being sarcastic here and I'm not getting it? Or is this the thread where shills learn and share their talking points?

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanJHart
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I agree, I like that getting your tree golden takes a lot of work

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TinyKitties
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I've been on it for a few days now, and I really enjoy it! So much more work to do!. Getting to crown level 5 means more to me than keeping something golden used to.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane
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I don't think you saw all the different nuances of the old system, Tinykitties. It's not just the change to crowns, it is all the amazing different ways of practicing and revising which have been removed which is upsetting people.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TinyKitties
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I did enjoy the old system of learning with the Spanish tree and then the "reverse tree." I liked using the option to strengthen my skills. I did enjoy keeping my tree golden. When I saw that the English from Spanish tree had new skills added I hoped that there would be some changes for the Spanish from English tree. I did already spent several hours gold plating some of my old skills on the new tree. Yes it was very repetitive. There are many different ways of practicing with the crown levels too. There seems to be 5 trees in one now. I had a choice of changing to Crowns and after many hours working on the new tree, I'm glad that I did! Changes are always tough, but give the new crown levels a chance :)

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

Actually, there is no choice. It's Crowns or "so long, sucker."

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

Wow. That's just silly. The decay feature was important and that's gone. Now, once you hit level 5 (and there is no level five - it just means you've finished level 4), once you hit it you will never forget, apparently, never need to brush up on anything.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/joecool543

You can’t test out skills with the crown system. Come on......

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/y.ademas
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I hated it at first, but it's growing on me as I keep working with it.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Madix99

agree absolutamente- love the new program. And a shout- out to the creativity of the pictures!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ThisOldSpouse

I have been working with this app for over 4 years and have enjoyed the progress I have made in learning a second language. The app never yelled at me for not catching on right away and I always had the option of going back to review and study past lessons. Believe me when I say that there were times that it took a lot of studying and review before I felt comfortable in moving on to the next lesson. I am grateful for the opportunity to use the app and have learned a lot. I was looking forward to continuing to learn and having a long association with Duolingo.

Unfortunately, after working with the new crown system for a bit I can say that I am thoroughly disgusted with its ability for me to pick and choose the specific areas I want and need to review or practice. Losing that ability to review and proceed at my own pace is very important to me. I am not in this for the short run. I would like to be able to use the language I am trying to learn. To do that I need to get things into long term memory and that requires practice and more practice. That’s why that even though I am have been at this on an almost daily basis for 4 years and am at level 24 I am only about half way through the lessons.

Having the availability of more nuanced and difficult questions I think is a good feature. However, and this is a major point If I don't really understand questions at the previous level what good is it going to do to go on to more difficult items? All that is going to happen is I will get confused, disillusioned and decide I am not making any real progress.

I am really, really close to just chucking the last four years of work and trying to find a place that will let me work and review at my own pace. Actually, today I was at a point where I just did not care to even try and continue with the lesson. I did keep at it until I completed it but it was a struggle.

Please, please reconsider adding some of the lost functionality back in. I am going to try and stick it out for a bit but don’t know how long I can keep going.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vincent_Tillema

I think the general idea behind the crowns is cool...but I do miss my fluency percentage. A lot. The crowns make the entire tree seem like a grind (although I get the learning benefits), and don't really seem to reflect progress. I know the percentage was also just a number, but it did give me a better idea of how far I am learning Spanish. More so than crowns or levels do. If they would bring the percentage back, I'm fine.

And dropping the heart system, of course.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JanPalsson

Dropping the health i needed. As it is now i cant stay in my club with administrator requirement of 50 XP’s daily. 5 faults and I have to wait approximately 10 hours or pay............

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane
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Which language are you learning?

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/redda18
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Yes but once it's gold it won't decay and that won't encourage you to practice the same

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RyanRiverside

Individual words still decay! Skills don't, and honestly, after the 80 or so runs through something like Vocab 3, it would be hard to imagine a world where you'd lose that information. It takes so long to complete, unless you're blitzing the tree and putting in a dozen hours a day, it's naturally spaced repetition just by virtue of taking much longer to complete. If you add in moving from one skill to the next between levels (complete Crown 3 on all, then Crown 4, then Crown 5), it would be so deep in long-term memory that it might be more memorable than some of your native-language vocabulary.

That said, if you go into your Words tab on the browser version, you can still track decay/strength, and use that as a roadmap for which skills you want to practice and work on! :)

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Caleb596944
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I will still do the skills that I feel weak on, and you can always practice weak words with the "Practice" feature.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

No you can't.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EricManDude

Well that stinks! I would be ok with it if it decayed like the old system. Is that the only big change?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

There's another change. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Etc.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/trilby16

OP - I thought you were joking but there's no punchline!

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Constanza99442

I love it, too!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andrea623713

What is this new crown system? I pulled up duo today and instead of having how fluent i am, it had the crown. its looks really cool i just don't understand how to use it, can someone explain please?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NoNoEsImposible

Here is the explanation of what it is:

And here is the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) post:

You might want to right-click on the links and then click "Open in New Tab" because they take so long to load.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andrea623713

Thank you!!!!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/eli42377
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Couldn't duolingo give users the option which system they want to use, the old one or the new one with crowns? Sometimes you can please everyone.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/t0906239.
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I agree with you

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ausir
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I like the crowns but I miss the bots from the iOS version that were removed. :(

10 months ago
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