"The man also drinks hot milk."

Translation:Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch.

April 10, 2018

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Now why not "Der mann trinkt heiße Milch auch"


the position of auch and most of adverbs is like the position of nicht. so "Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Suppe" is correct.


That's just even more confusing... wouldn't it be for the negative form: ''Der mann trinkt heiße Milch nicht'' or '' Der mann trinkt keine heiße Milch'' ?


Er trinkt milch und wasser auch -> He drinks milk and water too. Will that be a valid way of writing it?


Er trinkt auch Milch und Wasser.


I believe it could be "Er trinkt Milch und auch Wasser." At least, that seems to be the way it is used here: (Check the sentence about Würste)


Yes, that's true. Not only milk but water too => Milch und auch Wasser. My sentence was several beverages and [milk and water] too.


I thought that in order to negate the conjugated verb, you put Nicht at the end of the sentence (before infinitive verbs, though). Wouldnt you just put Auch at the end, similar to nicht?


I have yet to see a reply to this that makes sense so I googled around about nicht placement which is supposed to mirror auch placement. I read that the applicable rule is nicht/auch will precede an adjective. Nicht/Auch goes to the end only in simple declarative sentences with subject, verb and optionally a direct object: Ich laufe nicht. Er will sie nicht.


Not necessarily so. It has more to do with what is being emphasized. Please see my earlier post where I convey information from a native speaker of German.

Edit - I found this discussion as well:


I looked around for your other post and in it you had this:

"Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch." = The man also drinks hot milk (as well as other drinks).
"Der Mann trinkt heiße Milch auch" = The man also drinks hot milk (as do other people)

This is incredibly helpful, thank you.


But 'Der Mann auch trinkt heiße Milch' is unacceptable? (Meaning that besides the other things he is doing--perhaps eating cold meat--he is drinking hot milk.)


The verb has to be in the second position - where you have "auch". So, yes, your version is unacceptable.


From the comments I understand that, if auch is at the end of the sentence, then it will refer to the verb.

Der Mann trinkt heiße Milch auch: the man walks, smiles, does other things and drinks hot milk as well

When auch is before a noun, it refers to that noun.

Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch: the man drinks other liquids as well as hot milk.


I did the same thing, I thought I remembered sentences where it went at the end but I guess not.


havent read the replies but I correctly decided by thinking that we're not comparing his drinks, but being aware that he drinks something as well as do other things. otherwise the auch at the end would be referring to the last sentence, not to the penultimate one, which has had me at the scene realism


That's actually the opposite of what I thought. I thought we were specifically comparing his drinks.


mizinamo explained it in this discussion: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/15966495

"Adverbs that apply to the verb or the entire sentence generally come right after the verb in German, and here too, auch should come right after 'trinkt'.

(An exception is if the direct object is a personal pronoun or, in some cases, a definite noun phrase -- but there is no direct object in this sentence so those exceptions don't apply.)"


I wish that Duolingo would say "Pay attention to the word order/grammar" similar to how they treat accents.

I had "trinkt" and "auch" mixed and it said I "used the wrong word" even though all the words were present (but in the aforementioned wrong order).


Word order is an essential part of learning the language. Try scrambling the words in an English sentence and see how much sense it makes. German has a bit more leeway than English does, in terms of where things go in a sentence, but there are still rules, and if you don't know them and use them, you're just making word salad.

Later edit - I will add that I believe the reason Duo is more lenient with accents is just practicality - it is so inconvenient for some folks to create them. Personally, I think a little tutorial on how to do that when a person first signs up would be a better approach. In any case, despite downvotes, I continue to fail to see how skipping grammar rules would be in any way a reasonable way to conduct language lessons.


they aren't saying that duolingo should ignore word order. they are saying that, when you get it wrong, duolingo should identify that it is because of word order and not "wrong word"


I answered "Der Mann auch trinkt heiße Milch." and got it wrong. Is there a rule(s) about where to put 'auch' in a sentence? Danke


Don't know if there is a rule about auch, but the verb must always occupy the second "logical position" in a sentence in German. Therefore, it could be either: "Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch" or "Der Mann trinkt heiße Milch auch", though I'm not sure about the second one, regarding the "auch"...


Thanks Vitor_Araujo25! That's a really good point about the verb position. Any native speaker to please confirm if this would work: 'Der Mann trinkt heiße Milch auch'? Vielen Dank im voraus


This is what I answered as well. Got it wrong, too.


why it is heiße and heiß? isn't "milch" a neuter word!


Die Milch is feminine, so it's heiße. For a neuter word it would be heißes (e.g. heißes Wasser). Only if the adjective is connected with a verb, it doesn't get an ending, like "Die Milch ist heiß" or "Das Essen wird kalt".


Why is it that when I put 'auch' at the start of the sentence, then put the verb 'trinkt' straight after followed by the rest of the sentence, it was wrong? Was just wondering as that's how I would've normally translated it.


that would basically work as well, but it is just not how Germans would say that normally, as this construction seems rather weird and old-fashioned


When asking a question in german, the verb is put in front of the sentence. So "auch trinkst der mann" does not makes sense, for you can not put an adverb before a verb.


Auch trinkt der Mann heiße Milch, you mean? It's possible indeed, but very rare. It sounds literary to me.


Is it a (more or less) hard-fast rule that adverbs such as "auch" come directly after the verb in declarative statements such as this?


Even after reading these comments, I am still confused about the placement of 'auch' in the sentence. Doesn't it depend on the context, or does it ALWAYS go in the same place? (I am clear on the rule about the verb going in the second place.)

For example: Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch. (He drinks hot coffee. But he drinks hot milk as well.) (this is DL's correct answer.) or Der Mann auch trinkt heiße Milch. (The children drink hot milk. The man also drinks hot milk.) (my answer, which was marked wrong.) It seems to me that 'auch' would go in a different place, depending on what you are trying to say. If there is a rule about this, I'd love to know it. Danke.


Ok. Our regular German-speaking mods don't seem to have noticed this thread yet. I am a new learner myself, but my husband grew up speaking German, so I asked him. Here's what he says:

"Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch." = The man also drinks hot milk (as well as other drinks).
"Der Mann trinkt heiße Milch auch" = The man also drinks hot milk (as do other people)

I gather that the second form is not accepted by Duo, but it seems that it should be.


I think your second sentence should be auch der Mann trinkt heiße Milch.


Ok, I asked my husband again (ha). He says your version is not wrong, but it has specific implications - something you would say to maybe contradict something someone else has said, as in: "In fact, the man also drinks hot milk". And would need a comma after "auch".

Added He says "auch" is one of those words that has a zillion subtle meanings in different contexts. There seem to be a lot of them in German.


"The man also drinks hot milk". Belongs the "also" with the man or the milk? Auch der Mann or auch Milch? My native language is Dutch ("ook de man" versus "ook melk").


In English, you can't tell from this sentence. It could be either. (I think that is what you were asking?)


Der(Article) -> Mann(Subject) -> trinkt (Verb, in second position) -> auch (adverb, after the verb, before Noun) -> heiße (Adjective, before Noun) -> Milch(Noun.)

With negation, we would use Keine, as there's no Definite Article (Die Milch), and the noon is Feminine.

Der(Article) -> Mann(Subject) -> trinkt (Verb, in second position) -> auch (adverb, after the verb, before Noun) -> Keine (Negation, I'm not totally sure why here, I just know) -> heiße (Adjective, before Noun) -> Milch(Noun.)

Hope this helps others as much as myself too. And if anyone errors please let me know too! (:


Your reasoning is correct: "not a" = "keine", so it has to be where "eine" would be in the positive sentence. However keine is without a capital K because it's not at the beginning of the sentence.
The man also does not drink hot milk => Der Mann trinkt auch keine heiße Milch


Whenever I hover over the word "hot" it tells me that one of the possible translations aside from "heiße" or heißen" was "hitzig" but when I used it in this sentence, Duo won't accept it.

What is the difference between the two?


I don't think you can use hitzig when talking about warm/hot food and drinks. hitzig is for temperament or discussion.


Die mann trinkt auch heise milch why my this answe is not acceptable


You've also misspelled "heiße." If you can't type "ß," you should use "ss," not just one "s."


Because der Mann is grammatically (and biologically) male/masculine, so you can't use "die" which is for (grammatically) feminine words. Der Mann, die Frau, das Kind....


What t is wrong with Der Mann trinkt mit heisse milch?


"Mit" means "with," not "also."


What other word order would sound natural here ? I've tried : "heiße Milch trinkt auch der Mann". Not accepted.


In this way you apply auch to der Mann. (I.e. Also the man ...)
If you say Auch heiße Milch trinkt der Mann, it's referring to the milk instead (also hot milk...).
They are bot grammatical, but sound less common.


Like many here I used auch at the ending, and I found this link very usefull



Yet another word order question, but I don't see it answered in the other comments:

What's wrong with "Der Mann heiße Milch trinkt auch"? Don't direct objects often go before the verb in German?


The verb in a declarative sentence in German (i.e., not a question or command) goes in the second position of the sentence. So whatever item you put at the beginning of the sentence, you need to put the verb right after it. "Der Mann" takes up that first position, so you need "trinkt" immediately after it, and "heiße Milch" after "trinkt."

Another option is to indeed put "heiße Milch" before the verb, but then "der Mann" has to go after, since "heiße Milch" is taking up the only pre-verb slot: "Heiße Milch trinkt der Mann auch."

Don't direct objects often go before the verb in German?

They can, as in my example, (though not with the subject also before the verb) but they certainly don't have to, and the typical ordering is subject first, and objects and adverbs after the verb. I'm curious as to where you got that impression?

Whatever you put in the first position puts some extra emphasis on it, making it more or less the topic of your sentence ("Hot milk is something the man also drinks" or perhaps "Hot milk? The man drinks that too"), so you'd need the right context to put that object first.


Hello, if someone could clarify this for me I would be very grateful: I have heard that verbs have to always go in the second position. Does the use of Der here not count as a 'position' in this sentence?


"Der Mann" would be in the first position since position does not really equal word count.

Like in the sentence "Meine Schwester und ich schwimmen mit den Delfinen" Even though "Meine Schwester und ich" is four words the phrase is considered to all be in first position "schwimmen" is in the second.


Why isn't "Der Mann trinkt auch warme Milch" accepted?


Because "warme" means "warm," not "hot."


Adverbs in German come after the direct object.


I was marked wrong for using the double "s" (ss) rather than the German form, which is not available on my key board. Not fair. ,


Duo wouldn't mark you wrong for just that; you must have had another mistake too. What was your entire answer?


For anyone who also wrote in their notes that zu and auch both mean 'too', you, too, must be sure to not confuse too and too, they're two different words. Too many toos/twos/tos.


I think you mean, "to" and "too". :-)


What's the connection between 'is called' and 'hot'? Is it just coincidence that the verb 'heiße' and the adjective 'heiße' are the same word?


It's a coincidence. They're unrelated.


Hi. Is "Der mann auch heiße milch trinkt" not correct? If so, why is that and in which case should I use such word order, where the verb goes to the end? (i see the A LOT, irl) Thank you very much!


Subordinate clauses put the verb at the end; independent clauses put it in second position. This is the latter, so the verb goes second ("Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch").


It seems that this was intended to mean the man drinks milk in addition to doing something else. I understood it differently, as in for example...the children like hot milk ... The man also likes hot milk... Where "also" means the man and someone else... Where would auch be placed to reflect this meaning?


"Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch." = The man also drinks hot milk (as well as other drinks).
"Der Mann trinkt heiße Milch auch" = The man also drinks hot milk (as do other people)

I gather that the second form is not accepted by Duo, but it seems that it should be.


I miss the german letter to write properly heibe .I have only normal b


The "ß" letter is completely unrelated to "b." You can type "ß" by (on mobile) long-pressing the "s" key or (on the website) clicking the "ß" button under Duolingo's textbox input. If neither of those works for you, you can type "ss" instead ("heisse"); but "b" is completely wrong.


ß ist a sharp spoken "s"when there is a long spoken vocal in front of it. Otherwhise you use an "ss" to indicate that the sound is spoken sharp and not like a "z". When Germans have a keyboard without ß they always usw "ss". In Switzerland there is No "ß" at all


Oh dear, I'm afraid there may be a language barrier here. I am completely puzzled by your use of the word "sharp" and cannot understand what you mean by it. Both "ß" and "ss" sound the same, what in English we call a "soft s" sound, as in "sister".

I found this page useful: http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/basics/pronunciation-consonants/


"Der Mann trinkt heisse milch" this is exactly what I wrote and still is wrong. This app is not discouraging me to learn Deutsch, order??


You didn't translate the word "also." You need "Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch."


Why not "Der Mann auch trinkt heiBe Milch"?


For one thing, the letter "ß" is not a "B"; it's a completely different letter. You can type it by (on mobile) long-pressing the "S" key or (on the Duolingo website) clicking the "ß" button under the textbox. If neither of those work for you, you can substitute with "ss" ("heisse"), but "B" is totally wrong.

You also can't put both "der Mann" and "auch" before the verb "trinkt." The verb belongs in second position, so it has to go right after "der Mann" to make "Der Mann trinkt auch heiße Milch."


I'm still very confused about the positing of auch or nicht in a sentence. Could somebody please help me out with this.


heiße is not meaning like Ich heiße - my name is?


Nope, no connection. One is a verb, the other an adjective.


I thought verbs go at the end so wrote Der Mann auch heiße Milch trinkt. :(


All conjugated verbs are in 2nd position in a sentence. Auch is an adverb, not a verb, nor Is it conjugated.

However, if you have more than 2 verbs (not joined by conjunctions), then one of the verbs will be conjugated in 2nd position, the other will be unconjugated and at the end of the sentence.

All conjugated verbs are in 2nd position, unconjugated verbs go to the end.

Trinkt is your conjugated verb (conjugated to fit Singular nouns), and because there are no other verbs in the sentence, there will be no verbs at the end of the sentence.


Royce, you may be thinking of the situation of dependent clauses, when the verb does go to the end.

Perhaps this will help:


Always, it shows that it is a typo but what happened this time?


What was your answer?


I was asking the question hoping for someone else to have an answer


No, what was the answer you gave that Duo said was a typo? Nobody here has any idea "what happened this time" unless you tell us.


How would one distinguish between a man who drinks hot milk as well as (zB) beer, and a man who is not the only one drinking hot milk?


Please read the comments, this has been discussed at some length.


Why is it not "heiß" but "heiße" ?


Anytime an adjective is right before a noun, you need to conjugate it by adding an ending on it. "Milch" here needs the feminine accusative ending "-e" since "Milch" is feminine gender and in this sentence is in the accusative case (since it's the direct object).


"Der Kerl trinkt auch heiße Milch". Is that wrong?


I think it's pretty slangy and not on Duo's list of accepted answers.


How to write these two sentences in Deutsch? Please help.

  1. The man also drinks hot milk. (As in someone is drinking hot milk, and the man also drinks hot milk)

  2. The man drinks hot milk too. (As in the man is drinking something hot, and also the hot milk)


Please read the other comments. DianaM and I had a discussion about this subject.

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