I love the crowns!
I love the crowns and voluntarily wiped my entire French tree (which I was halfway through) to restart with the new system. I understand that some people dislike the new system because of the repetition but I find that I need the repetition it provides. It is possible to "cheat" the exercises and do the bare minimum to proceed through the tree without having a complete understanding of the skills. This new option to further practice is perfect for me because getting to level five has increased my fluency in that skill.
Choosing to get to level five is optional. It is not a requirement. I understand that some don't like it but for others it changes the way we learn and what we understand. Some people like to see the golden tree. Some people like to see the fluency percentage. I'm sorry that you dislike the path that you would have to take to get your golden tree back and that you won't see your fluency percentage but I'm not sorry about the update.
I love this new direction. I love the crowns.
Stay motivated everyone!
have a lingot. i also adore the new Crown system, as well as the new French tree. since the A/B testing was taking it's sweet time, I rolled a new account and started over.
until the new tree and the introduction of the Crown system, I was pretty much done with Duo, but this has rekindled my interest. to everyone who is disappointed in "losing progress", bear in mind, you lost nothing! all that knowledge is still in your noggin, i hope. now you have an opportunity to reinforce and learn more!
we're in this for the language, not the golden owls, right?! :)
I really miss my (mostly) golden tree and I was so demotivated when I found out that the new crown system placed me very low in French although it's my "just repetition tree" (I learnt French years ago in school) while I've mostly level 3 in the skills of my "new" languages.
But those are just my thoughts, what happened in reality was: I became angry at my tree, I started some lessons, I did some more, and now I'm spending much more time on Duolingo than in the last weeks where I just came here to not lose my streak. So I guess it would be fairer to say that the crown system is absolutely right for me.
Same! I absolutely love this new design. Repetition is also something I need in order to progress in a language, which this update offers. I also like how you can choose to carry on down the tree or stay and perfect a skill.
To be honest, I was getting tired of having to everyday find that most of my tree had decayed. It was starting to feel like a chore. Thanks Duolingo.
I do like the increased repetition. Before I was having to write down new vocabulary in order to remember it. A lot of work has been done in introducing these crowns and it is an improvement.
Any tips how to learn in this new system? Do you propose to earn first everywhere one crown and then go back and earn everywhere 2nd level. Or reach level 5 for first section of the tree and then continue to next section (devided by tests)?
Just my opinion, but I'd recommend doing the tree to level 1, or 2 or whatever takes your fancy, and then move the whole tree up one level. If you took everything from 0 to level 5 module-by-module, it would be incredibly boring. I tried it for the first few modules and you end up writing "Je suis un homme et tu es une femme" 150 times which isn't much fun.
It doesn't seem fundamentally different than the old one. you still must complete a level before the the next one down unlocks. You still have the option to practice more. Mine changed over about four days ago, and they all got assigned a 2 in all the levels I had completed. Maybe that was based on some algorithm. The main difference seems to be that the fluency percentage no longer shows, but that was kinda spurious anyway. (I was "67% fluent in French" and "59% fluent in Spanish" before it went away, but I don't think I understand 2/3 of the dialogue in French movies that I watch.)
With the new system I'm doing the same as in the old. I've worked to the bottom in Spanish and am nearly there in French. After that, I'll go back to the start and go through them again. Go down till they all become 3. Then again, to 4, etc. Break up the ennui with those cheesy but educational short stories. I'm about halfway through those. I started to alternate days Spanish/French, but found that it's more fun and more challenging to do them back-to-back. I find myself writing "elle esta..." or "ella est..." sometimes. D'oh! Keeps me on my toes. You should do that with French and German. "Ich bin très fatigue..." :)
As has been pointed out, the new layout doesn't seem to have any algorithm that tells you specifically what you need to practice. In the old one you could see that by watching the little eggs get colorful again. Haven't seen anything like that on the new design. Maybe they think we're smart enough to figure out what we should practice all by ourselves. (For me, it's figuring out when to use avoir and when to use être in past compound verbs, as well as when to put an adjective before and when to put it after then noun. That's tricky. There's also the subjective case. That one is a ❤❤❤❤❤, both in French and in Spanish.)
I jump around a bit. I'm still working on clearing the new tree for the first time, but I'll jump back to the beginning of the tree when I feel like just practicing something else. I never felt that the Skill Decay w/ the old system gave me stuff that I actually needed to review, rather it was just a decay clock that maybe factored in how many errors you incurred in a lesson.
It's nice to have the option to just meet your streak goal for a day by going back and crowning Basics I again or something like that, rather than doing new material. I'm curious to jump into some of the higher level skills that I placed in at 2 crowns and see how they feel.
I take the approach of getting to level five in a module before continuing on. It IS repetitive and sometimes it takes a long time to get through one but I've been trying to accomplish one skill a day to level five. I've found that doing it this way gets me to a point that I can translate, read and speak the skill incredibly fast and without mistakes. I choose to always write instead of using the word bank and my translating (typing) is just as fast as I would be writing in English and I am quite a fast typer.
This might not work for you. I wasn't really taking in what I was learning before which was my major problem and why I like the new tree. If you find you comprehend everything after level one or two just do that and continue on. You can always go back and practice or change the way you learn.
The mindless repetition required to power through the Crown levels is not the same as spaced repetition. Spaced repetition is much more efficient for long-term learning (according to scientific studies), but Duolingo got rid of their SRS when they switched to the Crowns system. It might feel like endless repetition is helpful, but you will not remember your language vocabulary as well as you did when Duolingo was using SRS. This is why people are upset about the repetition in the Crowns system.