The end of a 60 day streak and Duolingo.
Depending on how I feel in the morning I think my streak is over and so is Duolingo. After clocking up almost 600XP today with countless 3 and 4 word, utterly simple sentences, this is not an improvement and is no longer helping me to learn Spanish. It's now only slightly improving my vocabulary with an occasional word I may have forgotten.
There's a lot of negative talk about the new Crowns and they have turned Duolingo into something of a chore for anyone who has already completed the tree. I am halfway to completing all the topics at level 3 but the last 4 topics I did were around 16-18 lessons each, all the others were about 12 on average. This is a ridiculous amount of lessons just to get a crown. I've had a peek at what I have to achieve to complete level 3 for the same 4 topics (or 4 crowns) and it's:
Time 21 and
Adjectives 1. 27.
A total of 84 lessons just for the last 4 topics to get 4 crowns and reach the second checkpoint. The lessons consist of "El baño es nuevo" and the like, wow, is this level 3 Spanish? It should be in the Basics.
With 200 million users I don't think Duolingo are that bothered if a few people leave however it's a shame that a perfectly good and free resource for learning languages has come to this.
So it's back to my ipod and my audio book, having to think about what I want to say as this is what really helps us to learn a language, not just repeating my pink shoes in Spanish over and over again.
Adios amigos :D
we are only required to earn 1 Crown per topic per row to unlock the next row.
just get the 1 crown and move foreward until you feel overwhelmed.
then you can drop back and see what you have retained
if something feels weak then it makes sense to train more and build up the crowns
otherwise there is no reason to repeat anything that is already easy for you
Why don't you mix your exercises? Nobody forces you to do all these simple exercises in a row.
I do the most difficult things first (if I feel like it), and I leave the simple things largely untouched. I love the system because it gives me the freedom and overview to do just that.
I mean, I don't want to talk you into anything, but this is what I do: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/26919711
It's more difficult, it's certainly more repetitive, but that's how language learning is! The unfortunate truth is that learning a language is not easy, and most of the time it is not fun. Ultimately, this format is better for everyone to learn, even though it may not be as enjoyable.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you - for me, learning a language, though not easy, has always been fun... until now. This format is not better for everyone - it might be for some people, I'm not one of them.
Spanish from English:
You are on the old SP tree: Skills: 61+2
I would wait!
I heard that - besides French 3.0 A/B test - there is a new Spanish tree with MANY more skills to be rolled out, which recently have been ALPHA tested.
So you might see some new skills and vocabulary soon, once it is rolled out for everybody...
Why don't you simply start the reverse tree Spanish-English (from Spanish) and put your other EN-SP tree further back, until they fixed/improved crowns with the code iterations in the next 6-12 months, if you do not only want to strengthen skills back to gold (100%)?
I heard good stuff in several threads about this other course!
I am learning ton's of NEW vocabulary in my PT-DE / PT-EN reverse tree(s)!!!
And there is the "jumping Subjunctive" across several skills....this will probably also be the case for the SP-EN tree.
Other learners have already confirmed this for courses...I believe it was a Spanish (or PT) thread....
I wish they would roll the new Spanish tree to everybody, not just a chosen few :(
My app is updated - still no new tree. And no new tree on the web version, either. They have it in A/B testing, and I'm in the placebo category :)))
If Duo became a bore to you, did you try Clozemaster? I started about 10 days ago and I absolutely love it. I learned more Spanish in the past 10 days than in the past six months of Duo, I'm sad to say. The only downside I've seen so far is that there is no pronunciation - that is a rather severe shortcoming, indeed. On the plus side, you have so much new material, that the only thing you need is time :)
Well, I don't have that much patience left to train :D So I decided to move on to the greener pastures of Clozemaster :)))
Just coming back to Duo for one lesson a day, to keep my streak, and for the forums, because there's always something interesting to be learned here.
Thanks for all the responses and I'm happy to say I've completed the 61st day of my streak. I'll keep doing the tedium for now and see what's rolled out in the near future, it sounds like there will be some positive changes and more in depth lessons in the higher levels.
Thanks for the info Thomas Heiss, I think a lot of people are hoping for a marked improvement with the new system though it still seems to be in it's infancy.