https://www.duolingo.com/celtic1234

Spanish second tree- struggling

Hi all Just started my second Spanish tree and am struggling a bit. The step up in level is not going well- is this normal. my plan is to keep going but I'm surprised that I'm finding myself practicing more and to gain back health I have lost- any advice appreciated? I presume other people are finding the same? Thanks all

10 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/rahtjen
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If you practice on a computer, you don't lose health. Practicing on a phone or an iPad, especially on some of those pesky sections, you can lose health very quickly. I like using multiple platforms for Duolingo practice - phone, iPad, computer. Each platform has things unique to the platform.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/celtic1234

Thanks

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TimSpainFromEng

My strategy:

When advancing down the tree seems too hard, focus on earning extra Crowns on the earlier, easier lessons. So instead of marching all the way down the tree, leveling up from Crown 1 to Crown 2, try getting a Crown 3 or even 4 before advancing. At some point, the target lesson gets away too easy and it is time to move on, to get 2nd crowns on next lessons.

Conversely, when lessons are getting too easy, it is time to stretch out the Lessons, working on handfuls or even dozens of lessons despite how long it takes to get any one Crown this way.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/celtic1234

Think your suggestion makes more sense- going to concentrate on the early crowns- thanks

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/The_Physicist.

I had the same question few weeks after I started learning Spanish. So I kept pushing things forward while practicing the old lessons too. At some point (and here is the catch) I started caring less about how many points/ fluency / levels I gain because I realized that these things are actually Not my goal, but learning a new language Is The goal to which I keep investing my time. Everything else, although so useful, is only tools encouraging to make such goal. Hope this helps.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chericher
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Do you mean you started the reverse tree or have you decided to redo the Spanish tree? Regardless, what is not going well? It just takes more time and practice with the Crown system to level up. Keep going! : )

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/celtic1234

I finished the tree for the first time and am now working from the start of the tree again and bringing each to crown level 3. It just seems much more difficult. I plan to keep going - but any advice appreciated - should I aim to target more practice each day? How much practice makes sense at this stage- thanks all for the replies

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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The crown system does allow a much more difficult exercise mix. I like to get fairly comfortable with what's going on in a skill before moving on. I have found the difficulty gradient up to level 3 pretty steep, but between levels 3 and 4 it's less so. And you have a lot of "go rounds" at levels 3 and 4 to get you comfortable with the material. The good thing is that it should help get you an ability to use the material actively, not just recognize it. This is a much greater challenge than the common experience before. Of course, it's also more useful in general.

The above is mostly based on my experience with the web version. I don't use the app much.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/celtic1234

Thanks

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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Hi Adam,

DuoLingo still does not provide a "Strength ALL grammar skills" button :-(

The real difficulty would be, to mix multiple tenses in a sentence / paragraph or decide for yourself which sentence translation is right from which of the available grammar skills for each of the different sentences.

The lesson/session should be longer than only 7-17 repeating questions.

Focusing only on ONE skill exclusively, like DuoLingo does it do all the time even with the "Strengthen Skills" button (which only picked the first non-golden skill from top to down in your tree), is IMHO not that really challening...

Would you agree with me? ;)

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Some people are reporting seing an increased mix of tense use at the upper skill levels particularly for the "vocab" skill further down some of the trees. In my view, this is a good way to achieve something very similar. A "strengthen all skills" button would also be great, but given that Duolingo hasn't seen fit to implement it, and contributors can start on the former option immediately, I think it holds more promise in the short run. Of course, it also yields a more diverse review experience when Duolingo SRS lands on that skill.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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Ah, 2nd tree: Try to avoid tapping on the mobile app with word bricks.

Practice writing with the keyword on the web portal.
Install a Windows keyword so you can also type the correct accents / diacritics.

The best would be to be forced into writing (RECALLING) in your L2 target language from L1 English translations.
Not the other way around, like DuoLingo does it on a higher ratio.

Wish you good luck that this changes for you on higher L3/L4 levels.

If it still does not work well for you for EN-SP, try the reverse tree SP-EN.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/celtic1234

Thanks will do

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pilgrim2k
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Before the "Big Change" with the tree I had redone my tree 10 times just to practice and keep everything gold. I do a lot on my iPhone and iPad during the day as I travel and then at night I will sit at my computer. Now to my point I Hate the Health Bar issue. when I use my phone I accidently hit a wrong letter, (usually in English, my native language), because the keys are so small, and I lose my health. I 'don't understand why they have the health bar on there anyway. When I lose my health I have to wait until I get home to practice more on my computer. A lot of times I am traveling and don't get home. I'm bored with the repeating of all the basic anyway but am determined that i'm going to redo it all. It's just practice for me. I wish they would take the Health bar off and just let us practice and learn without this issue.

10 months ago
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