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mich and dich, mir and dir

hey guys, have always wondered the protocol behind mich and mir and dich and dir, i know both mean me and you, but am confused as when to use both, are they just interchangable or is there a rule concerning this?

4/20/2018, 8:31:54 AM

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Hi Sam, in German we have four cases. And whenever you put a personal pronoun into a sentence to you have to be aware which case to use.

Ich gebe dir ein Bild. You could ask: Wem gebe ich ein Bild? The answer to the question is in the dative case, so you use dir.

Er gibt mir ein Bild. Wem gibt er ein Bild? mir =dative

Ich male dich. You could ask: Wen male ich? The answer to this question is dich = accusative case.

Er malt mich. Wen malt er? mich = accusative

You see, the usage is depending what function this word has in the particular sentence. There are some more rules.. ;-) If youwant to know more just ask..

4/20/2018, 8:53:44 AM

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is it bad that i still dont understand? ive been researching the cases, watching videos, and reading. i still dont understand all of the dative and nominative and accusative and whatever. it's really frusturating, and i just dont get it

4/22/2018, 1:37:17 PM

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Hi, Let me try this again. Every noun takes a different case in German. There are four of them: nominative, genitive, dative and accusative. The noun has different functions in a sentence. The verb, a preposition or another noun determine the function. The noun takes the case due to the function it has in a sentence.

  1. Verbs that determine the case

Die Frau sieht den Hund.

Die Frau = Ask: Wer sieht den Hund? (Who sees the dog?) The answer to the the question word wer is the noun in the nominative case

den Hund = Ask: Wen sieht die Frau? ( Who does the woman see?) The answer to the question word wen is the noun in the accusative case

Der Hund gehört der Frau.

Der Hund = Ask: Wer (was) gehört der Frau? ( Who (what) belongs to the woman?) The answer is: Der Hund (nominative)

der Frau = Wem gehört der Hund? ( Who does the dog belong to?) The answer to the question word wem is the noun in the dative case.

The accusative form of pronouns are: mich, dich, ...

The dative form of pronouns are: mir, dir, ...

  1. Preposition which determine the noun's case

These are more difficult because some preposition require the dative whereas the others need the accusative.. And even then they can change the case according to the question word you would use to determine the case of the noun.

Der Hund ist für die Frau. (Für wen ist der Hund? ) = accusative

Ich fahre zu meiner Freundin. (Zu wem fahre ich?) = dative

  1. Nouns can determine another noun, but only in the genitive case.

Die Tür der Küche ist zu. = Wessen Tür ist zu? (Which door is closed?)

Did this help a bit? If you like you can try making some sentences on your own and post them here. I would take a look at them and explain them. :-)))

4/22/2018, 3:24:58 PM

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which one you use depends on whether it is the direct object (accusative case) (mich, dich) or the indirect object (dative case) (mir, dir) in the sentence.

I give you the prize. Ich gebe dir den Preis.

I love you. Ich liebe dich.

4/20/2018, 9:12:09 PM

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But still there are Germans here that can not cope with this too. Sometimes it is used wrong in jokes too.

4/20/2018, 9:46:56 PM

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in jokes yes. (i too do this sometimes simply to annoy my brother.) but i do not know one single german who really can not cope with what.

4/20/2018, 10:14:23 PM
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