"They are studying the cities of Europe."
Translation:Ellos estudian las ciudades de Europa.
The present progressive form (They are studying) uses the verb estar. https://www.spanishdict.com/guide/spanish-present-progressive-forms
I read the the page from spanishdict .com what I gleaned from is that the correct answer ought to be "Ellos estan estudian las ciudades de Europa", but someone else says that 'estudian' means 'they study', so if Duo says the answer is 'Ellos estudian' then wouldn't that be 'they they study'? grumble grumble grumble. I dont think I'm getting this...
I know this is an old post, in case you guys haven't figured it out, estudian Is the verb used for both ellos AND ustedes. You would need to differentiate the pronoun for this particular sentence. Estudian español requires either ustedes or ellos so people would know if you were talking about you all or they. Another issue that comes up on this question is the omitted son. Son is actually a verb. Since son would not be a verb in this sentence you don't use it. Estudian Is the verb. Son means they are or you all are AS A VERB. Eg. You all are tall. They are short. They are rich. You all are poor.
Actually, no. Estudian and son are not verbs. They are the conjugations of verbs. Estudian is a conjugation of the verb estar while son is a conjugation of the verb ser. I hope everyone reading this understands the difference, estar and ser are the infinitive verbs that have been conjugated to particular subjects to form estudian and son. Good luck! :)
Thank for your reply. I thought "you all"=vosotros. I'm trying to remember my Italian grammar but it's 25 years since I went to school and maybe they aren't the same anyway. Duo put "usted" as formal, no ustedes. I remember in Italian you had 2 forms of "formal" :"lei"(3rd person singular) posh/to strangers(?) formal and "voi"(2nd person plural),my mum spoke to my grandma all her life, as a sign of respect. I'll ask to my Venezuelan Duo friend and I let you know if you like. Sorry if my reply it's rude
You are correct and that is good to know. It is the informal version of you all. Latin America doesn't use it all that much however. As far as I know vosotros is used primarily in Europe. In Latin America I have heard that ustedes is the primary term used there (I don't know if this is true of all the countries in Latin America. They all have differences.)
'Son' means 'are', and should be used with 'Ellos/Ellas' and objects in the plural form, for example: 'las bibliotecas'.
Moreover, 'Ellos son estudian' means 'they are they study', this doesn't make sense, so you shouldn't use it. However, 'ellos estudian' means 'they study' and 'they are studying' Therefore, you had to use this phrase for this sentence. I understand this is confusing but the reason why you can use 'Ellos estudian' for both meanings is because both our in present tence.
Note: Don't give up and I hope this explanation helps. I believe in you!
Sometimes they give a hint by capitalizing the first letter of one of the words. Sometimes they don't. When they do; however, I go ahead and use that capitalized first letter word, at the very beginning of the sentence, unless there is no logical reason to do so. I like to make things easy on myself.
But yeah... as far as I can see... you could have used Ella or ella because there was no previous indication that it referring to the masculine.
Good morning. As a non-native English speaker I don't like it either, I always put "ellas"but I was hoping that "ustedes" was neutral. Growing up in Italy, I never thought much about it...or maybe yes? When that woman in the news pointed out the use of Mankind instead of Humankind, I was surprised I never noticed. But then that put everything in question. Eg."woman"= wife of a man. Queen=wife of the king.
Personally, I try to keep in mind that everything we've been taught so far has to do with the present tense. I don't know any other tenses; but even if I did - it makes sense that Duolingo is pulling correct answers from what has been taught so far. This isn't ALWAYS the case; but generally, it makes logical sense.
So, if your understanding is further along with respect to playing with other tenses of the present or near present or whatever... just keep in mind, that Duo may not be treating you as if you know more. They may be treating you and everyone else on the basis that you are a beginning student. Just because you know 1,000 other ways to say relatively the same thing or even the very same thing; does not mean that the programming will support all those other ways.
And I just wanted to add... that the beginning exercises or chapters or whatever may not include vocabulary that is probably taught in later chapters. Thus, as you go on.... it seems that each chapter will include what was in the former chapters; but it may not work that way, backwards.
It's also possible - that to keep you on a one track mind... though something is supported in the past in Duo... you are marked wrong because they want to support one tense; and keep you away from thinking in the other tenses. Whatever the case may be... Duolingo is just one training program.
Personally, I feel they do a very good job for something that is so complex; but they WILL make errors; because it's human to do so; and unless Duolingo was designed by artificial intelligence; humans, whom, again, are prone to error, designed this program; and thus, errors are to be expected.
But more information can be good; and so you might try supplementing, if you haven't done so already, with something like the YouTube channel, Butterfly Spanish; or the memory training website, Memrise.
Duo, for the most part, will help a person get a good working understanding of a lot of conversational languages; but if you treat it Duo as HOMEWORK; and not CLASSWORK; then you will be disappointed. Think of Duolingo as the INTITIAL INFORMATION; and it is your job to go further if you want a better understanding.
Good luck on your language journey my friend!
Imagine for the moment, that you are taking an Algebra class. You can get the same answer with Calculus; but when you use that way of getting to the answer; you are marked wrong. You weren't wrong; but the answer you gave did not come by way of a method that the teacher wanted you to be focusing on. Thus, you are marked wrong.
There are lots of ways to both be wrong and be right at the very same time. Don't get hung up on every time you don't understand why you are marked wrong. Just go on... in time, with enough exposure to different scenarios, you will naturally become more clear as to the various distinctions and when they should be applied.
And you'll learn; or at least I expect you will... that language can be largely right or wrong due to the REIGNING OPINION.
Language really IS opinion. It's a way of making meaning for oneself; and conveying that meaning to others, as accurately as one can.
Getting hung up on the details when you are dealing with an imperfect system - or asking for perfection, is a losing game.
To borrow a quote I like very much... "Progress; not perfection" is the name of the game.
Seriously, we are learning, so why do they not even provide the correct answer to help jog the memory. Both estudiando and estudiar were shown, yet both were wrong. Estudian was the correct answer. Duolingo are great in assuming you already know the answer by not exactly helping guide you along. Misleading as always
Perhaps Duolingo could have different versions. Personally, when I am first learning something... FEWER options allows me to learn much more rapidly. More options confuses the heck out of me. Additionally - there is not enough physical space on the screen to add ALL the right answers. WHO chooses which to include?
Different versions could be beta tested and then given to use for people who have different learning styles.
But I like your question. It can really help, as you say, to jog your memory and thus add to the repetitive factor which greatly enhances long term memory and ultimately learning a language more completely.
"Ellas" should be fine too since there's nothing in the sentences that says what the group consist of. Eg. "Michael y Mary, ellos estudian … Cause there's both male and female, so you guys win. If Duo gave you"ellas" has a mistake then I'm pretty sure it's computer error.
"Son estudian" can't be used because as others have said, son is itself a verb and estudiar is the verb taking the action in this sentence. What is always helpful for me is to remember what my old Spanish teacher told me (and this was a long, long time ago so someone correct me if the language has evolved): You usually can't have two verbs in a row without the second one being in the infinitive. E.g., "I want to eat" is quiero comer. In this case, that would mean saying "son estudiar". Which just doesn't work (they are to study...?) I think you could say "son estudiando" (literally "are studying", at this moment in time), but since DUO hasn't really taught -ando endings up to this point, that's not an option, either. Bottom line, estudian implies they study or are studying in a general sense.
Good Morning. It does sound right, although Duo hasn't taught has that yet. Thanks for letting us know :) I was actually looking at "conjugation website" yesterday and I also was trying to find if that form you just used it's used in Spanish as it's for Italian. Not found a definitive answer for me
Morning! I think it's cause it's looked from the American/English point of you, where there's not "formal" way to talk and Duo doesn't even give the form Vosotras, that'll be the "you all". I tried to do the Spanish course as a Italian speaker(we have 2 forms of"formals"),in that one it's even more confusing to understand how "ustedes" is used. But I suppose that we are playing with Duo and we should go by its rules :)
Son is used for they are with a condition. One example is Ellos son altos. Ellos estudian means they are studying and if you were to use the present progressive, you would use están instead of son and it would be ellos están estudiando, which has a similar but slightly different meaning. In English we favor the present progressive, and it appears that Spanish favors the present indicative. Spanish would prefer to use están estudiando only if you can actually take a picture of them studying at that exact moment.
That's good leg work! I was trying to figure out now, if there are more conjugations in Spanish or Italian(how much I hated them at school). I think Duo is teaching the right way, by repetition and in chunks. If there's something I learned, when I went from Italian to English, translate word by word doesn't work. … pasito a pasito
it's difficult, cause you probably getting EnglishSpanish, as Duolingo is an AmericanSpanish. Plus by being a computer program it's not very flexible or at least like a person who might tell you about the other conjugation but it's better do a bit at the time. Plus Spanish as many more conjugations than English and not really like for like. So we can just speak the Duolingo language, if we want to play with it :-)
I'm sorry that's like "they are study". To be safe up to this point Duo taught us only the present simple and it puts the "present progressive" as a correct translation for el presente español as well. So if you look up how to conjugate it in Spanish, that's all you need.
Hi, how are you? As a possible translation of the word "are" you are correct but in this sentence it's not right.
Duo to this point uses in Spanish only the Simple Present. I don't know why they show as possible solution in English: Simple Present and Progressive(are studying)It's just confusing. I don't know if you used "son estudian", maybe cause it sounds like "studying"?