https://www.duolingo.com/SamuelCristea

Romanian vs. Aromanian

Hello everyone! I wanted to share a new video with you that I found of Romanian vs. Aromanian and I wanted to know what you guys think? What's your impression of these two langauges, are they similar or different? Which one do you personally like better?

https://youtu.be/tHY9OTcFnMU

I hope you enjoy the video and this discussion :)

April 24, 2018

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/belstar128

Cool language its different from romanian its always interesting to see European minority languages.

April 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SebastianMolin

So, since a lot of people here understand language similarities, Aromanian to Romanian is like Italian to Spanish.
Although I personally despise these comparisons, I believe this to be a good one. Romanians and Aromanians will understand each other if they have to. They both originate from the same people, just that one is lower Danube Latin and the other one is higher Danube Latin.
In antiquity, they used to be more similar. In fact, modern Romanian has been heavily influenced by Slavonic pronunciation and to replace a majority of Slavic words, "new Latin" words coming from French, instead of Latin had been utilized in the standardization of our language.
Anyway, before the influential time period, Romanian and Aromanian were practically the same languages. Even if you study old Romanian scripts from the 1400's time period in Moldova, you will see that the language has gone some dramatic changes. The spelling has changed, the pronunciation has changed and even the context and grammar was modified.
I believe this to be a common case for all languages. As we form separate communities, we create new words and sometimes pronounce things differently.
It's like a beautiful pot of diversity :)

April 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Sandybell1990

When I was young, we had a book with different versions of the pastoral ballad Miorița (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miori%C8%9Ba), and a couple of them were in Aromanian and I could understand most of the language, especially when reading them side by side with the Romanian versions.

I believe that some of the similarities in the two languages can be attributed to common roots and also to something we studied in both History and Romanian Language and Literature lessons, the ancient practice of transhumance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumance

"In the Balkans, the Vlachs, Sarakatsani, Aromanian and Yörük peoples traditionally spent summer months in the mountains and returned to lower plains in the winter. When the area was part of the Austro-Hungary and Ottoman empires, borders between Greece, Albania, Bulgaria and the former Yugoslavia were relatively unobstructed. In summer, some groups went as far north as the Balkan Mountains, and they would spend the winter on warmer plains in the vicinity of the Aegean Sea."

This was also the case for routes between the Carpathian Mountains and the plains in present day Southern Romania and Northern Bulgaria. There's a cool map on that page:

Transhumance Ways of the Vlachs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Transhumance_ways_of_the_Vlachs.jpeg

As per the title of that map, just like Aromanian, the Istro-Romanian and Megleno-Romanian languages are also close relatives of the Romanian language (also called Daco-Romanian).

April 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Andrei926539

I had a similar book with "basme populare". The pages were side by side. :)

April 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Justin7171

What an interesting video! I feel like they are similar however there are some phrases that totally do not match and I just wonder where it came from? Like "thank you" for example, in romanian it's "multumesc" and in aromanian it's "haristo"...

I personally feel like both langauge sound good in there own way and it's funny because when I think a phrase sounds good in Romanian it doesn't sound so good in Aromanian and vice versa. For example, the phrase "are you kidding me" in Aromanian it's "shuguiestsa" which in my opinion sounds like a pile of consonant sounds that doesn't sound so good. However, what I really like about Aromanian is that they add an extra vowel sound at the end of a word which is something Romanian lacks. Example - the word "how", in Romanian "Cum", in Aromanian "Cumu"

April 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Michael.Lubetsky

"Haristo" looks it may be a loan-word from Greek ("ευχαριστώ", "thank you")

April 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SamuelCristea

I thought so, considering that has vocabulary of Greek origin

April 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Andrei926539

It's easy to understand in writing for a native romanian, the spoken form is harder to comprehend. Simona Halep (the nr. 1 WTA player) is aromanian and she speaks the dialect. Also, Gheorghe Hagi, the famous romanian footballer is also aromanian. There are many aromanians (aromâni/armâni/machidoni) in the South-East region of Romania called Dobruja (Dobrogea).

Dobruja (Dobrogea in romanian) was colonised by greeks in ancient times. There are many cities which have/had greek names: Constanța - Tomis; Mangalia - Callatis being the biggest. That's way you get greek influence in aromanian.

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/LeCrioxRouge13

Where is it from?

April 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SamuelCristea

Aromanian is a dialect from Romanian but Aromanian people are an ethnic group native to the Balkans, traditionally living in northern and central Greece, central and southern Albania, the Republic of Macedonia, and south-western Bulgaria.

April 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Seneee

Nice one! I did not even know this language exists.

According to wikipedia there are about 250.000 native speakers of Aromanian.

April 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/michelle_annteja

I'm Aromanian, and my parents are from Constanta, Romania. In my experience, Aromanians that migrated to Romania from their native countries of Greece or Albania are more patriotic than the Aromanians that remained. The reason so many Aromanians are in Romania today is because King Ferdinand offered us land in the region of Dobrogea, and the liberty to speak our language and keep our customs. During the early 1900s, Greece tried assimilating Romanians to Hellenic culture. This meant encouraging to speak Greek exclusively, and even changing their last name's to a Greek one (this happened to my friend's grandfather)

June 28, 2019
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