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Can I say "mit dem Fahrer von dem Auto" ?

That is in English "with the driver of the car". From google translate, such kind of expressions are always like "mit dem Fahrer des Autos". I have not learned this. Can I just use the simple expression by direct translation as "mit dem Fahrer von dem Auto"? Vielen Dank!

April 26, 2018

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HirundoPrima

German is not my native language, but I think "mit dem Fahrer von dem Auto" is grammatically correct, so you can use it. However, using the Genitive case for expressing possession ("des Autos") sounds more natural to me.

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chocostorm

HirundoPrima is perfectly right with all he says

Another variation to say this is: "Mit dem Fahrer vom (=von dem) Auto"
-> a bit more colloquial

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AHA3006

A clear example of "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod", that is: the use of the dative is wrong by purists' point of view, but has crept into colloquial usage. So much so, that a book with the above-mentioned title has been written (and become a bestseller).

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gmbka

Das Buch ist alt aber ich kann immer noch ueber den Titel lachen.

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yeliya201

Thanks very much!

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andu444

Es lebe dem Dativ! ;)

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yeliya201

Thanks very much!

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yeliya201

Thanks very much!

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yeliya201

Thanks very much!

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ParPortas

To use the Genitive would be absolutely correct here. There are a lot of German doing this wrong too. It must be: "[...]/ mit dem Fahrer des Autos./ [...]".

April 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/7hAu0bvY

it is correct but i think the better way to say it would be:

mit dem Fahrer des Autos

it just sounds better, more elegant, while your example sounds like something a person with lower education would say (in my opinion).

April 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yeliya201

Thanks very much!

April 26, 2018
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