App vs Website
I don't know if this is true of all languages, but there is a frustrating and annoying difference between the user experience on the website and using the App. I have progressed to level 18 in Italian, mainly using the Duolingo app,on my IPad. Then came the introduction of the 'crowns' with no introduction at all for app users. As a result I started using the website and discovered that this offers a very different service from the App - in brief: no loss of 'health' or payment in 'gems' to regain health; explanation of errors and grammatical points. I then found that 'gems' earned on the app are not being accrued on the website. And new translations of words suddenly lost 'health' (Torta variously translated as cake, pie, tart; 'esse' introduced for loro without context... ) I'm committed - for now - to using DuoLingo to supplement other learning of Italian. But why so many poorly implemented changes (including the awful time lag in translating selected words into Italian)? Why so reluctant to communicate with users!
This has long been the case, two formats for one learning platform. I have totally tnrown the towel in with the app and only use the web now. I can do this because of my lack of intetest in any of the add-ons, gems, flags, trophies, Sadly as yet I have never found the perfect learning aid and unfortunately I think Duolingo has recently become even less perfect, but it will always be part of my daily language diet.
I went back to the app early yesterday morning, and lost my five bars of health. Now, 23 hours later, the system has restored three of them, and one more will be restored in five hours time. I cannot make progress in such a discouraging system. It is worse than being the eight year old dunce of the class 150 years ago---at least he/she was put in the corner but remained in the classroom.
Definitely the web version for me.
omg Helen. Dunce made me laugh so much. Not heard that word in a very long time.. Strangely “ Health” seems to be an Illness.
They actually admitted that the wanted to slow progress. What kind of a goal is that for a site that purports to promote language learning?
They wanted to "slow it down" as I was coming across people who had reached level 25 on the app (which was so ridiculously easy and quick to gain xp - prior to "health", obviously) yet would ask the most ludicrously basic questions. I was forever thinking "how could they not know that - it is so rudimentary" etc, etc.
I am not a fan of the app, only using it when I wanted to keep a (now long lost) streak going (I've been here since 2014). I've only started keeping a streak again as it is my marker as to when I started learning Italian.
I too refuse to use the app in favor of the website. Gems and whatnot aside, the most frustrating thing for me on the app is the lack of explanations.
Use the app for the easier ones at the top of the tree so as not to lose health. Also, stockpile free gems by reaching your goal every day on the web and go to the app and click on your streak. You'll be able to select a chest to get more gems.
I know it is working around the system, but the app has been that way for a long time.
They charge so much to restore health, that you will soon drain your lingots.
I don't understand why in the world they haven't yet added tips and notes. It's hard to recommend Duo to anyone who wants to learn a new language because of that fact alone.
The health curse dominates the app site. Just to restore health in the middle of a lesson, they want a HUGE amount of lingots, Someone else pointed out this is a sneaky way to get you to pay Duolingo when you finally run out of lingots. It is so sleazy. Just charge 10 or 15 lingots for a recharge!
Health is probably not the best idea ever. Luckily it's just there on iOS (which I don't have). I'm not keen on getting it.....
What is this "health" thing? I usually use the computer version but sometimes use the android app. I've never encountered anything related to health. It seems pretty backwards and discouraging rather than motivative.
I came to Duolingo when Rosetta Stone killed LiveMocha. If DL messes this up in the same way, I'll go somewhere else again.
I agree with the others here on health loss. As I'm back to working on some of the earlier (more basic) levels with the new 'crowns' -system, I'm trying to keep things interesting by answering the basic questions in different ways (e.g. using the vosotros/vosotras form for 'you' in Spanish, something not really taught here).
So, as I'm learning things, it's frustrating that at times the translation is not accepted, or as is more common, I get penalized -- all because I'm not giving a basic 'tu' form, and instead try to learn new things.
I do hope that the web version at least will not succumb to the same (mis)treatment they have given the iOS app.
If you’re using the website a nice trick is to add it to your home screen and it will open as if the website were the app. Just add it from Duolingo’s homepage (where your lessons appear) and you get the app minus hearts.
If it doesn’t work please tell me! I’ve only been able to test this on iPad so far.
Sorry, but I don't follow what you mean. Could you explain it in steps? Thanks
- Go the www.duolingo.com in Safari.
- In the top right corner next to the URL bar to the left of the new tab button (a plus icon) there is the share button (A square with an arrow pointing up). Tap it.
- In the drop-down there are 3 rows. Scroll left on the third row (Copy, Print, Create PDF, Add to Reading List) to the end.
- Tap "Add to Home Screen"
- An new icon should appear on your home screen. Tap it and it should open in Full screen as if it were an app.
Ok, I tried it and all I got was the web page. When you say "home screen" do you mean the screen that opens when you open the browser? My iPad is being very jumpy and not working at all well. I think it needs a doctor!
Sorry it didn't work :(
By homescreen I meant the place where you open apps from (where you get to from pressing the circle button on your iPad once)
It also won't work if you add it to homescreen from a forum page or Labs. It has to be from http://www.duolingo.com/
I'm going to try with a friend's iPad and see if it works on his. Maybe it's the iOS version that's different :/ sorry I wasted your time
No, don't apologise - you have been VERY helpful. I rang a repair place today - seems like my iPad screen is shot. It types and jumps betwen screens without me touching it!. Putting it in on Monday. I'll report back when I get it back "healthy".
Grazie, merci , thanks once again for trying to help. :-)
BTW when I press the circle button (as in turning the screen on) I just get the background screen saver and then when I swipe I get the "desktop" display. Or do you mean the Safari "circle" button?
The circle button to exit an app. I hope you manage to get your iPad fixed :D but you don't have to respond. I'm going to make a forum post with pictures and try on a few more devices
Hi Chris - I just got my iPad back from repair and it works Ok. It still looks like the website but, unfortunately, I can't access the discussion forum. It is better to actually open it as a webpage in safari - then I can link to sentence discussions.
Thanks anyway for trying to help :-)
It's not true of all languages. French seems to be a perfectly reasonable learning curve between the two platforms.