"Wir" vs. "Uns"/"Unser"/"Unsere"

[Desert-R0se]

Hello everyone,

What is the difference between "wir" and "uns" or "unser(e)"?
I suspect that "uns" etc. is used in possessive circumstances.

Thank you! AP4418

[7hAu0bvY]

exactly as you assumed. uns, unser, unsere is always used when it is about a possession. like:

Das ist unser Haus - this is our house

Das ist unsere Katze - this is our cat

Das Boot gehört uns - this boat is ours

etc.

[gmbka]

Wir is a personal pronoun, standing in for instance for "Jane and John".

Unser etc. is a possive pronoun, preceding a noun, as 7hAu0bvY explained.

[Desert-R0se]

I'm getting a pretty alright grip on this thing! Lol! Thank you!

[Desert-R0se]

OK, thanks, that's great. Could you give me all the conjugations please?

[7hAu0bvY]

you mean the declination?

Nominativ:

m= unser; n= unser: f= unsere; Plural: unsere

Akkusativ:

m= unseren; n= unser; f= unsere; Plural: unsere

Dativ:

m= unserem; n= unserem; f= unseren; Plural: unseren

Genetiv:

m= unseres; n= unseres; f= unserer; Plural: unserer

[Desert-R0se]

That's great! Thanks!

[7hAu0bvY]

i just realized: what i gave you above is not all. according to different situations ( like noun with article or without etc.) you need a different way to decline it. here is a link with the whole table. it is in german though

http://www.canoo.net/inflection/unsre:Pron:Poss:1st:PL

[Desert-R0se]

In the last row (genetiv) there isn't a feminine declination. Is it supposed to be like that?

[7hAu0bvY]

the feminine for the genetive is unserer. i forgot to put a f= before.

[Desert-R0se]

Thank you so much! This is great!!

[John188321]

for Dative, you said:

m= unserem; n= unserem; f= unseren; Plural: unseren

but actually, f= unserer, i believe?

[rTurkey]

fine jesus ill give you a lingot

[npLam]

..."I suspect that "uns" etc. is used in possessive circumstances."

Sorry if anyone has already said this, and I missed it, but whilst the possessive stuff has already been covered by others, it might be worth mentioning that uns can just mean us (as in: er kommt mit uns).

You also see uns a lot with reflexive verbs; things like:

Wir bürsten uns die Haare, where the sense is closer to: “We brush ourselves the hair,” than a possessive: "We brush our hair "
(at least that's how i see it; my grasp of reflexive verbs has always been a bit dodgy )

[Desert-R0se]

Oh thank you! That's adds another brick to my "Uns" house! Never mind, everyone learns, you'll have your "aha!" moment some day! Good luck to you!

[npLam]

:)

[thesleepmate]

that was amazing thanks

[rTurkey]

theyre all the same laughs like joker