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Guide me to Moravia, Czech Republic! :)

In two months I will go to Czech Republic because of work. I will be there for 2 years minimum, and if everything works out good, hey, maybe I will choose to stay there longer than that :)...

I will be in Ostrava, so Moravia part of Czech Republic. Some Czech friends of mine told me that Moravia and Bohemia are very competitive with each other, and that Moravia people are more close to Serbians (drink a lot, "tough" people, not so cold as Prague people, making their own Slivovica :D). I don't want to offend Prague folks of course! And I know that generalization is not that good, but hey, i wont get sick if you tell me some funny stereotypes :))).

The thing I would also like to know is how Moravia people speak? Is there any strong accent? Do they often use slang words? Any other interesting fact about their way of speaking? Here in Serbia, people from north and people from the south, sometimes sound quite different, and it can be drastically different, so that's the reason why I'm asking this. Czech I learn is very formal.

If you know any info, fun-fact, or anything at all actually, about Czech Republic or Moravia part in particular please do share! :)... I'm interested to hear everything you have to say about it! I will be there for some time, so any info will be helpful!

Cheers and děkuji!

May 7, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/Mereade

:-D The competition is not that fierce. And it is mostly one sided, with people outside of Prague disliking it, usually due to envy. Just like it happens to the capitals in various countries. The situation is now a bit more accentuated than a few years ago, as the capital and the villages vote completely differently in the elections and we all have to suffer from the results imposed by the people from the small towns and villages.

Moravians tend to speak more standard Czech, so you'll have easier time getting used to it than in Prague or western bohemia. However, it is very typical of the Ostrava inhabitants to speak really shortly, basically turning the long vowels á é í ý and so on into the short ones :-) Other than that, the so called "very formal" :-D Czech is gonna suffice, you'll just learn some regional vocabulary (and not much of it)

Ostrava has been known as one of the ugliest places in the country, a town of miners with bad economy, horrible air, and so on. But it has been changing a lot recently, it is considered a very dynamic town, improving in every way. The biggest festival of popular music in the country is being held there every year, that is just one of the examples. And it is very likely to continue improving in the years to come.

May 7, 2018

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Moravians tend to speak more standard Czech ... well ...

Yes when it comes to the endings, because they don't use -ej and other Common Czech features so much, but other than that, I wouldn't say so. There are several groups of Moravian dialects which can differ considerably.

And I certainly wouldn't call Ostrava a part of Moravia :) They have their own (Lachian) dialect group, different from the Moravian group.

Bohemia is much more homogeneous. Even in areas which were Czech before the war.

May 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Mereade

It's not just the endings.

Sure, some parts of moravia are more different, mostly those close to slovakia. Ostrava not that much. Of course, let's not forget that one's education, living in a bigger town or village, or a type of job also influences speaking a lot, often just as much as the region of origin.

Sure, Bohemia is more homogenous, even though the differences are noticeable here too. It makes sense, it has always been much more centralised around Prague and around bigger towns with industry, while Moravia has always been more about villages and agriculture (one of the exceptions about this are exactly the important mines and towns dedicated to those). So, it makes sense that the moravian dialects used to be much more isolated from each other. But still, it changes nothing about the fact that most moravian speakers are much more likely to speak more standard Czech than the bohemian ones (especially if we compare otherwise similar people)

May 10, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Vlajko8

Moravia is more about villages and agriculture? Oh, i like that! The part of Serbia where I live is more about agriculture too :)... I have my own plum orchard, and making my own Slivovica, so if Moravia people do that too, we already have plenty to talk about :D...

May 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Mereade

Well, Ostrava is mostly about mining. At least used to be, till recently. But the town is really evolving. Most people don't guess it before their arrival, but you can find a lot of diverse experience in such a small country.

Yes, slivovice is important :-D And there are also very good white wines from southern moravia (some even with prizes from international competitions).

May 14, 2018

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Moravia is more about villages and agriculture?

No, that's just what the tourists from Prague think, but they just come over for the weekend to get drunk on wine so of course they're hardly going to see the factories and technology centres.

Incidentally, I find alcohol consumption a lot less restrained in/around Prague actually. Within the same socioeconomic class, none of my friends and acquaintances in Moravia are regular drinkers whereas those in Prague you can guarantee they'll be having beers every evening, even during the week.

Prague and Central Bohemia also seem to be a lot dirtier and unkempt and the general impression is that they care a lot less about their neighbours and their community than Moravians do.

Of course these are stereotypes and generalisations, but it should give you an idea.

In any case, as has been said, Ostrava is Silesia more than Moravia. It is the poorest region in the country and the only place where petty crime is comparable to Western European levels, though still relatively low. On the bright side, you have the Beskydy “mountains” nearby.

August 20, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Vlajko8

Thanks a lot! That was very interesting! :)...

May 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/DeniseSchl5

Hi, I live in Karvina which is the town near to Ostrava. I can tell you lots about Ostrava, because I travel there often for work. Ostrava is a bit of Silesia and a bit of Moravia. Prague is definitely a more beautiful city then Ostrava but Ostrava has a lot to offer too. There is definitely some competition between these two regions although it is usually friendly. When I was in Prague two years ago, I told people I lived in Karviná. The people from Prague all wanted to know why I lived "there". Earlier this year I had someone comment as a joke that there was nothing between Prague, Budapest and Vienna. On the Ostrava side people see the bohemians especially those from Prague as a bit snooty perhaps. These are just generalizations of course and don't fit all people. I don't think were supposed to share personal information, but I will follow this post and answer any other questions you might have about Ostrava. If you travel outside Ostrava (to the east) you will find the Silesian dialect " po naszymu" which is some Polish and Czech combined with a bit of German.

May 11, 2018

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I am a bit confused about Silesia part actually, and I will spend some time there too, because of work. Friend of mine said that Silesia is part of Czech which "love" Poland, is that true? And he said that their way of speaking is quite... hm... different xD... So I understand you now when you say Polish-Czech combined with German :D... That's what I'm actually afraid of! I'm learning Czech, no Polish-Czech-Combined-With-German xD... If you don't find it too personal or awkward, feel free to add me on Facebook Messenger, I would like to learn more about Ostrava and Czech Republic in general! :)...

Thank you and best of luck Denise!

May 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/DeniseSchl5

Hi, Yes it is true there is quite a close relationship with Poland here. In many churches the pastors need to be able to speak both Polish and Czech. In my church there is a Polish service one week and a Czech service the next. As for the dialect being very different, I would say it is a bit different. I can usually understand most of what they are saying but not always all of it. Here is a good map (I think) of Czech regions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_lands#/media/File%3ACzech_Rep.-_Bohemia%2C_Moravia_and_Silesia_III(en).png

May 12, 2018

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The part about making their own Slivovice is true!

May 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel_Stahl

My experience with accents has been that Prague tends to speak a bit slower; so it can be a bit easier to understand. They also are a bit more sing-songy, which makes it a bit easier for native English speakers. I have a few friends from near Ostrava, like someone said, they tend to shorten things and speak a bit faster. This can make it more difficult; however, they also tend to articulate their words better. Better articulation, to me, is better than speaking slower. Unfortunately for me, I live in between, so most of my friends neither speak slow or articulate well.

And yes, all the slivovice.

June 19, 2018
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