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"Tu sei la ragazza col vestito rosso."
Translation:You are the girl with the red dress.
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"col" is more or less archiac -- modern Italian speakers no longer use contracted forms of "con" -- "con il vestitio rosso" is fine here.
One can only assume that it is here for completeness and for making sure that new learners understand the use of 'col'; modules further down the DL skill tree rarely accept the 'con-il' contraction. Buyer beware, I guess.
Io pensavo la stessa cosa!! I refer to Andianrate's comment...The dress is red.
Why is "in the red dress" not accepted? With is like the girl is either walking next to the red dress or carrying the red dress in her arms
Ya! Like she was nude? Is Duo a pervert? Pretty sure normal people would use "in the red dress"
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Nobody know why Duo is doing this. When I first started Duo 2 years ago, col was rarely used. Then, after Duo's fairly recent change in format to the "crown" tally, instead of "fluency", col appears with a lot more frequency. I can't recall whether Duo even uses con il any more, which seems awfully strange, given the number of comments which say that it is archaic (though of recent vintage, I think).
It may be as simple as the moderators now being comprised of old Italian professors of language who prefer col. I was discussing a topic in Spanish with a retired college professor about a different subject, but what he had to say rings true here:
"Grammar rules are generalizations written down by grumpy old, literate teachers who are upset that people aren't saying and writing things the "correct" way, that is, the way it used to be. Language is always changing, first as spoken, then, slowly, as written."
I believe it's simply to contract "con" and "il" together. Whether or not this is still used in writing or speaking is beyond me.
"Vestito" refers more to dresses than to clothes in general. Type "vestito" into the Italian version of Google Images, and you'll see what I mean.
Why is it marking 'con il' wrong? It taught me this was correct earlier in the same lesson.
I know that "col" translates to "with the" but I thought that "the girl IN the red dress" would also be correct. Why is this a mistake?
The same her... I understand that con "il vestito" means that the girl is WEARING the clothes, in that case saying "in the red dress" is correct. Unless "Con il" means something else, like "she is holding or carring the dress", not wearing it. Any one have any idea?
well con translates into "with" so saying "you are the girl in the red dress" isn't correct when you translate word by word, but it makes prefect sense :)
And here I was, thinking you were l'uomo con il costume verde for the entire book.
I consider that is correct if you write without the article. It is perfectly clear
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Probably should know this but why is 'Tu' needed here when 'sei' already means 'you are'?
Would I see a girl with a red dress, would I tell her to put it on so she would then be in a red dress Hum! Ever saw Marylin Monroe in a red dress in that,ya, old, old movie?
How do you know when to use COL and when to use CON? Please help, very confusing. Thanks so much
Col is no longer used in Italian, my teacher that ls native born to Italy and live in Italy say it is very old and has not been use for hundreds of years,
In England we would often say. The girl with the blue dress, him with the black jacket etc. It implies they are wearing it. It could be completed by saying The girl with the blue dress on. What fascinates me is why the preposition col is no longer used. It seems logical to use it given all the other prepositions we are taught.
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This is not good. In other exercises when I translated "rosso" as "red" DL demanded "pink". Now when I use "pink" DL demands "red". What's going on?
Col is not archaic.....anzi, is the short form. Used as con il. Col is maybe more informal
