Hebrew from Scratch
Just wondering if anyone has gone through the Duolingo Hebrew course from scratch and would be willing to share his/her experience and any tips or advice he/she might have.
Happy learning :)
Nice. I have started some of those courses (german, french, and english from arabic), and I still struggle typing in arabic, so it makes it quite hard to do. I would do more of what you are doing, but I have had some crazy exchanges on language learning websites with individuals from the middle east — I have taken off the marker I am learning hebrew— and that may have ended any pursuit of learning arabic I had. Its probably for the best.
I don't know how you have learned it, but in the U.S I found that practical use was what was missing from my course; and I think using it is one of the key ways to get better.
Yeah - I don't find it challenging grammatically. I just struggle to stay motivated learning on my own. With Arabic, I studied it in a classroom setting. I enjoyed the camaraderie and the "we're in this together" group mentality. Perhaps it will just take some getting used to :)
HAHA. I know what you mean about the camraderie group stuff. But with my Arabic class, if it was a bike race, I made a breakaway and everyone else stayed in a group going a couple mph slower than me. Unfortunately the professor decided to stay with the main peloton, and I stayed just far enough ahead to hear what they were doing.
For me with motivation, its kind of a culturally thing: I studied it when I was a kid and when I came here to learn I knew the script still after like 10 years of no use. Its an odd connection learning some of it, and it has a feeling of "coming home" which is a definate motivation for me. I think for language learning to be sustainable long term, and moreso just fun, there has got to be payoff; otherwise one might not even keep up with the main group of riders.
We should do a discussion page each week for Hebrew practice. I would like that. I feel like I'm at that point I need to break out of my box. It seems such a quiet language to study as far as forums go. Not as popular, but it seems the scholars are some of the main people to study it.
Since you know Arabic somewhat, that should help. Think of it this way. You are sowing a garden. You have a few words which are like the first seeds in the bare ground of your mind. Each time you learn a new word, you are adding a new seed. By and by they will bloom into something beautiful!
Yes I have... without studying the alphabet first... not a good idea but I thought "well why not give it a try, always up for a challenge". It is hard and I am now on level 12 painfully working thru the "there is a way, there is no bread, we are they are, etc..." for a really long time I just kept redoing the third bubble over and over and over again, like brute forcing it, so now those initial words like man woman dog book mom dad good tasty etc... seem a bit more familiar. I still don't know half of the alphabet!! But I am confident I will get there.
Yes, it was hard, but I know now however slow I am, I can learn bit by bit!
I can type some in Hebrew. At least I kind of know where the keys are on the keyboard. I learnt that by stabbing away at it. It isn't fast! The current setup where you have the hover-tips covering the keyboard isn't helpful to learn that. I believe there are typing programs out there.
I'm not exactly focusing on Hebrew at the moment, but I did start from scratch. What really helped me was learning how to read for the most part. There's this YouTube channel called jewfaq and on it, you will find videos on the alphabet that are absolutely amazing and so helpful. You will also see some videos on Jewish dishes on the channel. I used to hate this course because of the lack of help with the alphabet, but once I got the hang of it, I felt so much better about the course and I feel like I've already learned a lot so quickly. Someday I will come back to Hebrew. I wish you the best of luck! Persevere!
I started the Duolingo Hebrew course from scratch (zero previous knowledge), and have found it extremely exasperating. My main gripe is that there is not enough audio. In a language in which the letters only hint at the pronunciation, I would like to have every new word properly introduced. Without this, I have been finding it quite difficult to retain the presented vocabulary.
As a contrast to the Duolingo course, I have started using a course book for German speakers that uses a transliteration system. Learning vocabulary from this book works much better. Knowing how a word is pronounced when you learn it makes it much easier to retain.
My solution: go very slow and say the sentence multiple times out loud. And even further, say a sentence with perhaps a different verb conjugation multiple times out loud. I find I really have to work hard to retain hebrew vocab, and this helps a bunch; though it doesn't make it easy!
Here's the link to the Memrise Hebrew vocabulary words that go with this Duolingo course. One of the moderators, Mazzorano, built it. I've found it extremely helpful to hear each word pronounced separately in this Memrise course: http://www.memrise.com/course/1031737/hebrew-duolingo There are a few missing vocabulary words, so another student made another Memrise course for seeing and learning the "missing words", but there is no pronunciation. https://www.memrise.com/course/1508230/duolingo-hebrew-the-missing-words/
My personal experience, since I did start from literally nothing, and had zero concrete knowledge of any abjad (consonantic alphabet) beforehand:
- At first, reading without explicit vowels was the most strenuous aspect for me. I had a very hard time with the very first sentences/units before I could get a handle on what was really going on;
- Now, I feel things go way more fluidly, but the remaining big hurdle for learning is having to check the pronunciation of words, since the spelling is not explicit and there is (unfortunately) no audio available for several sentences. The vocabulary list PDF put up on the forum and Forvo are a great help to me.