"Hier fallen manchmal Fische vom Himmel!"
Translation:Sometimes, fish fall from the sky here!
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I know this phenomenon really does occur, so it's not the idea behind the sentence which bothers me, but the word order of the translation. There may well be only one way to correctly say this in German, but in English the word order isn't so restrictive; there are several ways it can be written, all of them quite correct. I tried a couple of variations of exactly the same words given as the correct translation, just ordered slightly differently. They were both marked wrong despite being perfectly acceptable English. Maybe Duolingo should either avoid sentences like this or allow a wider range of answers. Just a thought.
Unfortunately, as a native English speaker that is exactly what I thought it meant (that the fish were falling to here), much to die Eule's displeasure. But I think I may be forgiven, because a) we have no context and b) it would not be the first time that the Owl has given us such a strange sentence. What would the German be for Sometimes fish fall to here from the sky? "Hierhin?"
Is there any more elegant way to write this sentence in German? It feels very awkward. Perhaps 'Manchmal fallen Fische von Himmel hier.' would be a clearer sentence? The English isn't much better. In the English sentence, the placement of 'here' is what makes the sentence unwieldy. 'here' is irrelevant in the sentence provided by Duo. Sometimes, fish fall from the sky. Oh, by the way, the fish fall here. - or an alternative - Sometimes, fish fall here (at this spot!), from the sky. - Or, as Copernicus offers, 'Here, sometimes fish fall from the sky." Brings 'here' back into the core of the sentence rather than floating at the end. We're certainly getting a lot to discuss from this little sentence.
Actually, I specifically said that "Here, sometimes ..." sounds wrong to me. I would say the most natural-sounding English phrasings are "Fish sometimes fall from the sky here," or "Fish fall from the sky here sometimes," or "Sometimes fish fall from the sky here" (Duo's sentence). "Here, fish sometimes fall from the sky" is also reasonable if you want to kind of topicalize "here" (sounds like you're listing off places and what happens at each place).
I'm not really sure why you want to make "here" the core of the sentence when the actual really interesting thing in the sentence is that there are freaking fish falling from the sky. The "here" part just gives context, and since we're already "here" (at whatever place "here" is), it's not really that important. What we really care about is the falling fish, so "here" does belong at the end.
The German is fine too. Again, "hier" doesn't need to have emphasis, so putting at the end, where it does have emphasis in German, is pretty odd.
Afraid that translation does sound pretty strange to this native English speaker. We don't usually put two adverbs at the beginning of a sentence like that; one of them should be moved somewhere to the right.
It's not exactly correcting English grammar. Each possible translation is put in by a human by hand, and these humans have little reason to deliberately enter bad-sounding translations into the database. Even if they did, they couldn't possibly account for all the possible grammar mistakes and word order changes someone could make; even totally correct answers have to get added to exercises all the time as people come up with unexpected valid answers. This course assumes you already know how to speak correct English, and it is a machine, not a human, so it can only assume that any answer not in its list of correct answers is a mistake in translation rather than one in English.
Reports are definitely processed very slowly. Once in a while I get an email about a suggestion I made, and it's always one I made months before at best; I usually don't even remember making the suggestion.
Duolingo is free and the people who process reports are (I think?) volunteers, so unfortunately there's not really enough people or enough incentive to make this happen much faster.
So yeah, you probably won't see your suggestions get fixed for a long time, if ever. (And if they don't accept your suggestion, you won't get notified and you'll definitely never know.) Not ideal, but hey, it's a free service.