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language knowledge

I cannot learn by wrote or memory only; I need the knowledge of the language also. For instance, why are some words masculine or feminine? What are the various sentence structures? Where do we find this information?

5 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/merkavar

Isn't it obvious? A chair is clearly feminine. Just like a hand is feminine and a dog is masculine. :D

But seriously, i think that is a complicated topic. with no clear rules. I think you will just have to learn it with out understanding the origins.

Like agua is feminine but has the masculine el at the start, shouldn't it be la agua?

Can anyone explain it? The little I looked into it, it goes back thousands of years to the original languages for spanish, english etc

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larry926127

This is the type of knowledge I'm looking for. An in depth discussion of the genders in spanish as compared to the genders in english should have been part of the initial introduction to spanish. Some people learn by remembering isolated knowledge bits, others learn by understanding the process and concepts. The same idea holds true to sentence construction and the use of verbs. Is it o, e, or es? When and where?

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wombatua
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"Rote," not "wrote." Don't worry about the why; just realize that in Spanish words are either masculine or feminine.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgoth_Bauglir
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Spanish inherited its masculine/feminine distinction from Latin, with the Latin masculine and neuter merging into the Spanish masculine. Latin inherited its masculine/neuter/feminine distinction from Proto-Indo-European. It is often conjectured that feminine/masculine/neuter in PIE developed from an earlier animate/neuter distinction.

Not much is known for certain about the emergence of grammatical gender (or noun classes in general). I recommend the book Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things for some fun-to-read information on the subject.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/phopkins1
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sounds like you are off to a good start in recognizing things you need to study.

a lot of exceptions to the gender of nouns makes it difficult to learn by rules and require rote.

you almost have to read, listen and speak to get a feel for what is correct.

some words sound masculine but are feminine: calle, foto, mano, noche, gente....

and some words sound feminine but are masculine: drama, mapa, dia....

don't even try to figure out agua, el agua is feminine! Weird, right? it is for pronunciation sake to avoid a cacophony... beats me???

Take this practice quiz on Spanish noun genders

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larry926127

No, I am not off to a good start!! It is full of frustration because of this very issue. I learn by understanding and the associated concepts. Things like math, physics, engineering, and mechanics are easy to learn while things like language and history are extremely difficult!!! The difference between understanding and memorization!

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/phopkins1
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you’re just getting started. It will start to click.

Languages are subtly nuanced. Math and science are rigidly structured.

To make your observations at level 4 is impressive to me

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EboneyAtki

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