Translation:Do the ladies speak English or Spanish?
I answered " Do the women speak English or Spanish?" I got it wrong! DL suggested that I use "ladies" instead of "women". Seriously?
Still marked wrong in June 2019. Come on, Duo, women and ladies are the same thing!
I got the same response. I think its daft that it would fail on such a thing.
As stated in above comments, the usage of ladies over women is a tad antiquated for most of us English speakers. I agree that should be changed.
You may find the use of Ladies in English antiquated - I guess that depends on which part of the world you are from - but in Spanish the formal way of talking about women is "las señoras" and the translation should reflect the formal register. That's all. Don't expect the Spanish speakers to change their language because you find it antiquated.
They're not saying the spanish should be changes, just that in english "ladies" doesn't carry the same connotation as is meant by "señoras" anymore. "Women" is now more formally accepted than "ladies" which sounds somewhat patronising in common American English at this moment in history.
How do you know it is not "Are the women speaking English or Spanish" instead of "Do the women...."
"Are the ladies speaking english or spanish?" is accepted, so your answer was probably marked wrong because duolingo wants you to use the word ladies instead of women.
The comments on this and some other topics show some basic flaws in this approach: (1) This is not an English course. Yet the user interface is in English. (2) This is not a translation course. But for most questions the students are asked to translate an English text into Spanish or re-write Spanish sentences in English. The problems are obvious. I don't know what percentage of the people using this course are fluent in English. Shortcomings on that side may make it difficult to accomplish the task. Translating a text means that you first need to understand the meaning. Then you put that meaning into the target language, preserving the style and level of formality or informality. That may mean that the structure of the original sentence changes.
But that is not how duolingo works. You are expected to translate the original text almost word for word. I have noticed that even moving the word "sometimes" (a veces) from the end to the middle of a sentence upsets the system. So, now I stick to word for word translation. I have also learned to use American terms instead of British English. I also pay attention to what preposition I am expected to use. I'm learning how to please the system - and I may even learn some Spanish in the process.
So, unless you know of a better free course, keep your head down and do as the Big Brother says.
So I wrote "are the ladies speaking english or spanish?" Why is that wrong?
I know I was born in the stone age, but surely there is still a clear difference in the meanings of "ladies" and "women". To me, it is on the same level as the difference between, "Excuse me, sir", and "Hey, you!"
'Ladies' is used in the UK but is really becoming seen as a bit quaint. Most of the time people would say 'women'
Reported this and got feedback today that 'women' will be accepted as well as 'ladies'
On August 21, I got a Feedback email saying that “women” is now accepted. That day, it was marked wrong in an exercise. The next day it was accepted. Crazy...
I said "do the ladies talk in english or spanish?", but got it wrong... what is the difference between talk and speak?
The differences are subtle but real. When it is about languages, we use 'speak'. IMO your translation is reasonable but has a slightly different meaning. Check out https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/speak-or-talk
The previous reply is a good one. But also, you added an extra word "in" that is not needed.
A consistent problem with Duolingo. Questions are not asked as questions (go back an listen to the audio). This sentence is "The ladies speak English or Spanish." The problem is amplified because there is no consistency to subject-verb placement in Spanish. Ugh. [and while we're at it, I read this as "Ladies speak English or Spanish" and not "THE ladies"]
Am i missing something? Do the women speak English or Spanish? Was marked as incorrect.
I put "Are the ladies speaking English or Spanish?" And it was marked wrong. Just out of curiosity, how would you say "Are the ladies speaking English or Spanish?" In Spanish. Let me know. I feel like owl hunting tonight.
why is the term "ladies" different from "women"? They both mean the same
how would you make the statement (not a question) "the ladies speak English or Spanish?
I think you simply remove the question marks and change the inflection in your voice, Las señoras hablan inglés o español.
Las is definite article for Femlaes and Los is for Males, Right? Do we have for neuter?
Thats a good question. I think you just say Los, because most Male articles can also be for both. I don't know though hope this helped?
I would say "ladies" is patronising rather than "quaint", however it is useful to know what the most direct translation is, particularly if that informs what you might want to avoid
Ewan83, Trust me, I'm glad I'm not a man trying to figure out what to call a woman these days! But to err on the side of respect is better than to show disrespect, IMO! I LIKE respect and polite behavior; I believe the world could use more of it! I don't pay a lot of attention to "politically correct" speech, personally.
Like EugeneTiffany said above, I think Duo is trying to teach the difference between Señoras y mujeres.
Your error was saying "you" instead of "the". There's a difference in meaning, and the original sentence doesn't include any "you".
I also put "you ladies": if this was a question being asked to the women themselves, "hablan" would be the polite form and would correspond to English "you speak" just as if you had asked "¿Ustedes hablan..?".
Is it not possible to politely address someone as "El señor" etc in this way?
Learpholla, perhaps a person could directly ask men or women politely that direct question, using Ustedes, but because that pronoun was not used, you need to translate the article without adding the pronoun, & "Do the ladies speak English or Spanish?" implies that two other people are speaking to each other with a question ABOUT the ladies.
In other questions. Are speaking, they use hablan. So why was my answer wrong. (Are the women speaking English or Spanish?)
In the drop down and was an option. Speak English and Spanish was a MUCH BETTER CHOICE than speak English or Spanish. Geez Duo.
Howver, the sentence says "o" (or) not "y" (and). The dropdowns can be --- and often are --- misleading. They are computer generated and don't always suit the context.
I would just like it when i am following the instructions and i get it write and its gets marked wrong and I look at the correct answer it is the same as my answer that was marked wrong.
You have the language names in the wrong order; it should be "English or Spanish" ("inglés o español").
It might seem a trivial difference, but the order is important to make sure people are correctly identifying the words.
I said "do the ladies speak Spanish or English" and it said it should have been "do the ladies speak English or Spanish?"
Lady's (with the apostrophe) is the possessive of lady as in "the lady's. hat." The plural form is ladies.
I am tired of trying to decipher what this woman is saying. If Duoling want us to learn Spanish they should at least employ someone who speaks clearly. I can always tell what the man is saying.
Weird, when I wrote "do the girls speak English or Spanish" DuoLingo told me I was wrong and advised: " Do the gals speak English or Spanish?"
"Girls" is "niñas" in Spanish. I suppose "gals" has been provided as slang for ladies.
According to word reference: a gal is a girl Una Señor/a ( Sr./ Sra.) is a Mrs. Señora: Lady , Madame, Ma'am,...
Señora ( Polite): Older woman, or married woman) Madam...
Señorita( Younger woman) Miss.
Yes, normally gals means girls but when women go out for a night together they often call it "a night with the girls (gals)". Perhaps it's been reported and accepted...
Just because some people use words in their own way that doesn't make it true English.
A girl is a girl is a girl.
A man calling a woman, "baby" does make baby mean in English anything but a baby. An infant.
Is there any real difference: the ladies, do they speak English or Spanish and the translation above?
i put do the ladies speak spanish or english and it was marked wrong. said correct translation is do the ladies speak english or spanish. i reported it
the order does not change the meaning. so i don't understand why it was marked wrong
LOL. I think it would be easier to answer in the correct order than to argue about it.
Or maybe try to change the world and say "Gentlemen and Ladies...", "bolts and nuts", and "Eve and Adam".
Do the women speak English or Spanish? Seriously! I got this wrong! Burn the Word to Hell!
We learned the word mujeres translates to women and vice versa long ago.
If Duolingo had wanted you to use the word women it would have shown you the word mujeres.