Changes to Spanish tree and lost crowns.... OK with me, but how about a little warning?
I was shocked to see that I had lost half of my crowns. There were purple circles! I was just getting used to crowns in general. Why all the changes? Why doesn't DuoLingo find a way to tell us when changes are coming?
Many recent changes have ultimately been good and I support them once I understood what they were meant to achieve. Please find a way to warn us when you are changing something. Thank you.
It's always been like this when when trees are upgraded. You can have completed a tree and when new lessons are added, you lose your golden owl until you go back and do the new lessons. It's ok, there really usually is new information in the new lessons (sometimes not), and you'll learn more stuff. I would like some sort of automated email for languages i'm learning or have completed, though, so I know when I need to go back and work on things again.
This is not the same issue though, it’s not just a change, it’s a random loss of progress. You work to get up to level 3 on dozens of lessons, and then suddenly you are bumped down to level zero on 30 lessons, and have lost 30crowns. Meaning to get to the same level you had already attained you have to go through dozens of those “I am a man” “I drink milk” “boy, girl” lessons just to get to the level where you had been working on higher level skillls.
It's strange that you wrote this post 6 days ago as long as I've experienced the new Spanish Tree only right now. Yesterday everything was okay.
I agree with you that Duolingo should somehow warn us about the tree upgrades because I had goosebumps when saw everything changed. The only emails I receive from Duo are the answers-to-my-questions notifications.
A/B tests are how Duolingo experiments with its features. Some users will have a certain feature or variation of a feature (and they are Group A) while other users won't have that feature or they'll have a different variation (and these users are Group B). Duolingo then analyzes how each group performed due to the differences, and then they give the more beneficial feature to everyone. They constantly have ongoing A/B tests.
I'm also doing the Spanish tree (English->Spanish), but I have not (yet) lost crowns.
Perhaps I'll lose them later on today, or tomorrow, or maybe it's just a bug.
I agree with you that Duolingo needs to find a way to communicate with the users, prior to implementing changes.
I guess this is just the way Duolingo communicates with their userbase.
I am working on my third time through the tree. I really don't care about crowns or the way my tree looks. In fact, if duolingo doesn't have an influx of new material to learn in Spanish, I'll just leave. After all my primary reason here is to improve my Spanish and Duolingo has more than fulfilled that purpose.
As for giving you warning? You didn't get all those emails? You didn't see all those discussion posts? I guess I'm an outlier because duolingo hammered me over the head with those notices. It's okay, I appreciate that I guess. I just never knew how attached people were to that stuff.
I don't really care about crowns either, but I do care about past and future tense, conditionals, object pronouns and the like.
Later lessons are predicated on what you completed in earlier lessons. So now if I don't go back and do hundreds of new basic exercises, I'm screwed. I really, really need the practice with the intermediate and advanced topics. I can always pick up new vocabulary words whenever I need them.
Not really, you can always hover over any words you don't recognize. If there is a new grammar topic higher (lower?) in the tree, you can work on just that, then skip the vocabulary stuff. And when they change the tree, they usually don't lock the new lessons, or they didn't during the last go round of the improved Spanish tree, or the new lessons in the Dutch tree, most of which changed. You can still pick whichever lesson you feel needs to be worked on most.
The problem is that in many lessons, what has happened is that if one was at level three the progress was arbitrarily lost and the lesson level was bumped down to zero. So the learner who has achieved a higher level and is leaning new things in figuratively bumped down to first grade where they have to plod through Dick and Jane again. I have wasted days just slogging back to level two. I could have been sharpening more advanced skills. It really is like being put in a basic class after you have finished an advanced class. And BtW, the hover over any word to f8nd out what it means option is over. Only words in yellow can be clicked on to reveal their meaning.
There's going to be at least some new content in all of the lessons that turned purple. Do each of them once, don't worry about level two right away, and go back and review at random. I've been through the dutch tree twice, just to review it the second time. When I went back to look at it again, 3/4 of the lessons were showing as crown level zero (currently purple colored) There has been additional vocabulary, and depending on the skill, new grammar practice and new sentences, in each of the skills I've redone, not to speak of the benefit of repetition. So, all in all, it's a good thing. You don't have to grind away to level two in a single session, that is utterly boring. Don't get so hung up on crowns, this is a learning app.