https://www.duolingo.com/greenhere

Changes to Spanish tree and lost crowns.... OK with me, but how about a little warning?

I was shocked to see that I had lost half of my crowns. There were purple circles! I was just getting used to crowns in general. Why all the changes? Why doesn't DuoLingo find a way to tell us when changes are coming?

Many recent changes have ultimately been good and I support them once I understood what they were meant to achieve. Please find a way to warn us when you are changing something. Thank you.

5 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Klgregonis
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It's always been like this when when trees are upgraded. You can have completed a tree and when new lessons are added, you lose your golden owl until you go back and do the new lessons. It's ok, there really usually is new information in the new lessons (sometimes not), and you'll learn more stuff. I would like some sort of automated email for languages i'm learning or have completed, though, so I know when I need to go back and work on things again.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lizzie139260

This is not the same issue though, it’s not just a change, it’s a random loss of progress. You work to get up to level 3 on dozens of lessons, and then suddenly you are bumped down to level zero on 30 lessons, and have lost 30crowns. Meaning to get to the same level you had already attained you have to go through dozens of those “I am a man” “I drink milk” “boy, girl” lessons just to get to the level where you had been working on higher level skillls.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melyndi
Melyndi
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wow! that's a lot of languages... I can see how it might be hard to keep track of lol

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BruceGirrell

My dog is large? Tu hermana? My cat is pretty?

Why did I get sent back to first grade??????

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lizzie139260

Agree! It’s is exactly like being put in the beginning class after you were in the higher level advanced class and really learning in it!

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lizsue
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Hold it, which Spanish course got the upgrade? I haven't seen any in either Spanish for English speakers or English for Spanish speakers.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/E.T.Gregor
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A new Spanish for English tree is being rolled out. Not everybody has it yet. You'll eventually get it.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MichaelMTallman

Glad I didn't get too far with that one yet ;)

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melyndi
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I'm assuming it is probably what some of us have been beta testing for a few months now... It's good. Lots more A1 and A2 level vacab that duo was previously missing... I think it;s something like 40 ish new lessons

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MichaelMTallman

I actually had been away for quite a while and just restarted a couple of weeks ago, so I need to go back through my lessons anyway - good to know about the new tree

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/merkavar

No one expects the spanish inquisition... i mean new tree

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/greenhere

This response is the best one yet! I always appreciate a little Monty Python reference. :-)

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melyndi
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jajajjaajaja! Good one :3

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JPRasmussen
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...Okay, so let's bury this one in lingots.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RobertClem3

I too lost over 40 crowns. I really like the new tree and I understand losing the owl. But my crowns.........

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BruceGirrell

I can see additions to the trees, but why penalize us on our progress? Why should I lose crowns?

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/khm249

I guess I'll agree with others: don't really mind the upgrades, just wish they would've emailed a heads-up. I'm still trying to figure out how to best utilize this crown system as a whole with my language routine.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hank_Williams_Sr
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It's strange that you wrote this post 6 days ago as long as I've experienced the new Spanish Tree only right now. Yesterday everything was okay.

I agree with you that Duolingo should somehow warn us about the tree upgrades because I had goosebumps when saw everything changed. The only emails I receive from Duo are the answers-to-my-questions notifications.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mayrav4

I am still waiting for the change. Would like it to happen sooner rather than later so that I don't lose the crowns I get in the meantime

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/psionpete
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What would be the point of a warning? You couldn’t take avliding action. Although in a way Duo does warn us as they usually do A/B tests which is a good indicator that changes are likely to happen.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oedipusface

A/B tests? Is this the "extra credit" quiz I'm sometimes asked to do on the mobile app?

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/skyflakes95
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A/B tests are how Duolingo experiments with its features. Some users will have a certain feature or variation of a feature (and they are Group A) while other users won't have that feature or they'll have a different variation (and these users are Group B). Duolingo then analyzes how each group performed due to the differences, and then they give the more beneficial feature to everyone. They constantly have ongoing A/B tests.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StarlitTardis

At least with a warning, they could explain a bit about what's happening. When the recent changes happened, I would have been completely clueless if it wasn't for other users explaining things.

And for others like me (I'm autistic and often struggle a lot with unexpected changes) it could really help to minimise how overwhelming and stressful the change feels.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rick392366
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I'm also doing the Spanish tree (English->Spanish), but I have not (yet) lost crowns.
Perhaps I'll lose them later on today, or tomorrow, or maybe it's just a bug.

I agree with you that Duolingo needs to find a way to communicate with the users, prior to implementing changes.

I guess this is just the way Duolingo communicates with their userbase.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fractalfriendzy

How do we know if we have the old tree or the new? Can you tell from this? https://duome.eu/fractalfriendzy/progress

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BruceGirrell

If you just lost half your crowns and you now have more uncompleted lessons than completed ones, you have the new tree

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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@fractalfriendzy

This one is the old EN-SP tree.

The NEW tree has over 500 lessons.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fractalfriendzy

¡Vaya! Bueno.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/desertrose0601

If you still have the medals that turn gold for each lesson, that's the old one.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/angela.gunn
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Lose a few crowns, gain a lot of Spanish. I am totally cool with this change and send a big THANK YOU!!! to the Duofolk who made it happen. (Do French next!! :-D )

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lizzie139260

But really, how does it make you want to earn crowns if they just randomly disappear?

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/debs634342

no puedo comprederlo yo tampoco. Yo no veo como proseguir despues el primero arbol

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nld2217

yes I have just had it happen to me

5 months ago
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