Random observations on the new Spanish tree

  • Some of the word choices are now in sync with the reverse tree (Spanish to English)... for example, "marrón" for brown and "sándwich" rather than "emparedado". The structure of the tree also seems to more closely mirror the reverse version.

  • Some of the new skills promote me to crown level 1 halfway through the exercises. Perhaps the latter half was "remembered" as complete from the old tree?

  • Some of the pictures for newly added words do not provide audio when clicked. Not sure how to report this to DL as the only report option has to do with the picture not matching the audio.

  • Such random scattered crowns after the conversion! Will be a fun challenge to level these up though.

  • There is lots of repetition in the lower levels and re-learning of terms. But -- lots of quick XP! LOL


May 30, 2018


I like the longer trees, more practice for me is better. I also like the new material. My only concern is that is seems like it will not be possible to redo any of the sections. I know there is the practice option but to be able to do an occasional redo would be nice.

May 31, 2018

words tied to pictures, I don't have that. I thought all of the visuals were done away with.

May 30, 2018

Looks like they're back. I've had a lesson made up almost entirely of images yesterday ("Travel").

June 2, 2018

Thanks Joe, for the observations!

I lost 15 crowns total on my Spanish tree with the update today. Anybody else lose crowns?

May 30, 2018

I lost 40 and it's very discouraging. I went from practicing enough to get several hundred XP daily to just practicing enough to keep my streak because of this. I'm doing this to learn, not just to get crowns, but most of my skills reset from 5 crowns to absolute zero, so I can't even see what I've already worked on. And about 1,000 words disappeared from my "Words" list. That makes me think that some of my progress was actually erased, not just adjusted a little to account for lesson changes.

May 30, 2018

Lost 14 lost crowns and most of my motivation :-(

May 30, 2018

You're welcome, and yes, I believe most of us lost crowns. I am regaining them quickly though with entry level crowns from the new skills, as many of those recycle a majority of their words from the old version.

May 30, 2018

I've lost about 10 crowns, so I wasn't particularly happy either. Especially given that I was working on getting "Food" to level 5 for the past few days, and it's moved all the way down to the bottom and got reset to 1. Quite upsetting.

June 2, 2018

My whole "old" tree was all 4s. I lost 30 crowns, and all the new skills were set at zero (it went from 63 to 115 skills total on the tree). However, it also gave me the option to test out of a bunch of stuff, which I did and which - weirdly - netted me more than 4,000 added XPs in one day.

I've noticed the the new skills (the ones that were all set at zero level to start) have a lot of more interesting, more colloquial meaning and sentence structures - which I like.

Though it was disorienting at first, I find I like it after having spent a couple of weeks with it. My tree was, as I said, all 4s before the change, and I was about to hit level 25 in XPs. So I was kind of thinking - what's next? But now I feel like I have a lot of new stuff to work on...

June 5, 2018

I'm back to doing an hour or so a day now that I'm relatively sure my progress won't just disappear. Now that I've recovered from the shock of logging in to find my tree reset, my main complaint is just that they didn't tell us before the update. The in-app notification six days later wasn't particularly helpful.

When I finish the Spanish tree, I'll go do the reverse tree and find a language partner on a site like italki. There is always somewhere to go once a tree is complete. ;-) I'm curious, though, about how you tested out of lessons. Since I had already completed my tree before we switched to crowns, I no longer have the option to test out of skills. I'm not sure it matters at this point. I'm almost up to all the different verb tenses and that's what I really need to practice anyway.

June 5, 2018
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