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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Desert-R0se

"Ein Der", "Eine Die" & "Ein Das"

Hello everyone,

I have a weird question.
In these following sentences, is the usage of "ein" and "eine" correct?

"Du benützt ein 'der'"
"Du benützt eine 'die'"
"Du benützt ein 'das'"

I based this question on the assumtion that the article uses the same gender that it indicates.

Thank you! AP4418

May 31, 2018

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/birgit72635

Well, not quite.

Du benutzt einen Schlüssel. (Du benutzt den Schlüssel) (der Schlüssel)

Du benutzt eine Uhr. (Du benutzt die Uhr) (die Uhr)

Du benutzt ein Auto. ( Du benutzt das Auto) (das Auto)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Desert-R0se

Okay, I see, thank you birgit! ; )


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stepintime

Did you mean... not what birgit72635 wrote, but literally "You use the word 'der/die/das'"? Because then it'd be "Du benutzt ein 'der/die/das' (neuter)" for all three words. (Also: "Du benutzt ein 'A/B/C' (neuter)".)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Desert-R0se

Yes! Exactly! Thank you stepintime!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/npLam

Congrats on your

25
: )

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/exp271828

Wow! npLam, I think I'm getting slow or something. Yes, definitely congratulations Dessert-Rose on your 25! (I'm going slower than you are, but should be there after a while - and npLam, you're moving right along too!)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Desert-R0se

Thank you everyone! You are on my heels, good luck!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN
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I guess I better get cracking.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sabineborn2

hallo dessert-rose. bei "der" muss es heißen "einen" ansonsten ist es richtig. Es heißt nur benutzt und nicht benützt


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stepintime

"benützen" is correct as well, but it's used in southern Germany, Austria and Switzerland, so perferably you'd use "benutzen", it sounds more "standard German" to me.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sabineborn2

Ja, in Hochdeutsch heißt es benutzen.Ich musste das eben selber erst mal nachschauen weil ich benützen noch nie gehört habe :-D.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Desert-R0se

Hallo Sabine! Danke, ich verstehe das besser, ich denke! (Was that correct?)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sabineborn2

es freut mich, dass du es verstanden hast :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Berlin1929

I don't think you can say that because you have an article defining an article. Your example is an incomplete sentence.

The indefinite article "ein/eine/ein" can not depend on the definite article "dar/die/das". They determin their "gender" from the noun and the location in the sentence structure.

Example: You use the article "Die" with girl words Sie benutzen den Artikel "Die" mit den Mädchenwörtern

"Benutzen" and "den" take their gender from the word "artikel" and the second "den" takes its gender from "Mädchenwörtern" even thought you are saying the article "die" precedes feminine words. The word "die" is not a noun and does not have a gender.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN
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What are girl words? Mädchenwörtern


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Berlin1929

I'm sorry. I did not think of non-English speakers when I wrote that. I am new to this and l o v e learning languages.

The choice of word was based on an American comedy show making fun of body builders. Not sure if you are familiar with some of the "girly man" jokes from the Saturday Night live shows. They used "girly" rather than feminine to describe men that aren't muscular.

I will be more careful in the future.

I wanted to write a complete sentence. I probably should have said mit den feminin wörtern. But I wasn't sure how to spell feminine correctly in German because don't recall having seen or heard it used in German before. I'm guessing it is spelled feminin or is it femininen because it follow the word "mit"?

My point was that an indefinite article (like ein) can not take the gender from the definite article (der) but rather from the noun word that follows (Mann). In hindsight, this is really all I should written.

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