https://www.duolingo.com/Clemens162531

Loving the grammar sections in the first unit. When will there be more?

I find learning so much easier after reading the grammar sections. Things like what endings go with verbs, how the various cases are formed, etc.

I know there's sources for that online, but often those are a GIANT information dump that's too much at once.

I appreciate how the Polish course introduces these things slowly. Start with the simple Nominative / Accusative, then move to Plural, etc.

But it could really benefit from adding more of those courses. Without the extra text, it took me forever to catch on to the fact that negations change the object to Genitive (Kot pije mleko / Kot nie pije mleka), and I'm sure there's other pitfalls too.

So I was wondering if someone either has a good page that goes step by step (instead of one giant dump) through relevant grammar, or can tell me when we can expect additional / updated grammar pages for the rest of the lessons?

June 8, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/garpike

If I recall correctly, the contributors stopped writing tips & notes when they started working on Tree 2.0, on the grounds that all the tips & notes would need changing anyway.

For the time being you can always read the sentence discussion pages whenever a new and inexplicable feature of Polish grammar materialises, as you will likely find that whatever you are wondering about has already been asked and answered there.

June 8, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/dfwgator

I found this site very helpful when I need to reference the different cases, this is an example for Genitive Case:

https://mowicpopolsku.com/polish-grammar/cases/genitive/

June 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Jellei

As usual, I have to say that most of the neuter Genitive examples there are wrong.

But that doesn't change the fact that this website is pretty great.

June 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/rakomaniac

Martwisz mię... Please, could you give a link to one of your comments where you'd explain what is wrong on this page? (I need the most to train and learn the grammar; it is the website I'm using as a reference :$ )

July 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Jellei

I will assume that you used "mię" on purpose, but for others: this is a form of "mnie" that is now considered dated and/or poetic :)

OK, so if you open https://mowicpopolsku.com/polish-grammar/cases/genitive/#noun-singular-neuter, in the first part almost everything is fine apart from "muzeum -> muzea": actually nouns ending with -um have all the singular forms identical, so it's "muzeum -> muzeum". The plural forms differ and "muzea" is in fact Nominative/Accusative plural.

And then the same mistake is made for the last four examples, those that are put separately. The forms listed are Nominative/Accusative plural, not Genitive singular. The correct ones are:

zwierzę -> zwierzęcia

niemowlę -> niemowlęcia

ramię -> ramienia

imię -> imienia

The mistake must stem from the fact that most neuter nouns actually do have those three forms identical: Genitive singular, Nominative plural, Accusative plural. But only 'most', not 'all'.

I once tried to contact the creator of mowicpopolsku.com about that, both via the website and Facebook, but it seems that they are not active anymore. It's a pity, the website is a great resource even if an occasional mistake can be found.

July 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/rakomaniac

Thank you a lot about this full and clear explanation! Just need to update my mind now :)

(About "mię"; nope I had no clue -it's what I'm hearing when my parents say this- thank you a lot! And that "exactly" what i was talking about with the grammar training - "tę" is already corrected to "tą" for the acc of "ta" thanks to duolingo :) )

July 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Jellei

You're welcome :)

But the Accusative form of "ta" is indeed "tę". Even if "tą" is a very common mistake.

July 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Annie996449

Where are the Polish grammar sections on Duolingo desktop?

June 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Jellei

Only the first part of the course has Tips & Notes, you can click on the given skill icon and choose the lightbulb button.

June 24, 2018
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